Rush Starts for us Tonite... - Page 3

lifesaver · #31 09-11-2002, 02:09 PM

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Originally posted by DeltaBetaBaby
First of all, congrats!

I don't really understand, though, how this is formal recruitment. Other than the fact that bids are all given out on the same day, there doesn't sem o be much structure. Do guys visit every house? Are events by invitation?

First to answer the easy questions... Guys dont have to visite every house. I wish they woul don their own tho. Compare us to anyone else on campus and I can out sell them. I believe, comparatively, we have the best program to offer. Each chapter has to bust its ass to educate the campus as a whole about its events. THe school publishes this info in its Greek Life Guide, and each chapter puts a schedule on its recruitment tables in the quad. Events are open, non-invite and usually range from paintball to football games, to poker nites, to miniture golf to pool tourneys. Each chapter generally has the same events year to year and its kind of understoof that you dont screw with anothers event. Example: The TKE's big event is a BBQ nite at the best BBQ joint on the planet. Damn I wish we wouldda thought of that, but we didnt, so we wouldnt dare have an event there later int he week. Thats uncool. so we all do different events. Many of the chapters have a Pref Dinner, which is by invite only. Thats about the only yhing thats invite only... and its dont the last night of recruitment.

hahah...compared to the ladies, I dont think guys really have formal recruitment.. at all. It all depends on your defination of formal recruitment. Its split half and half across the nation. Some schools have a very formalized period of recruitment, where PNM's have to fill our applications, attend convocations, and get stamps ina book for houses visited. While this is very fair to all houses, the trend nationally has been to move away from this type of process. The college student is becoming less traditional, and many of them often have to work to support themselves in college. So often its not practical to ask a PNM to be able to take half a week off from work to visit houses, etc. So many schools, recognizing this are no longer requiring such a structured process, to make it easier on PNMs to schedule around. THe downside of that is that it puts mmuch more responsibility on the chapters to get off their asses and get out there, since they are no longer guranteed visits. That in turn often hurts the smaller chapters. So its a double edged sword..do you sacrifice fewer PNMs for equality, or do you put the responsiblity on the chapters themselves and give them more controll but with more PNM's? I dont know that we know the answer.

Many other schools, (mine included) rely on a less structured system. The school holds a meeting for interested PNM"s, and educates them on chapters and the process. All chapters agree to have events from Wednesday to sunday. On Sunday night/Monday morning, we are all on silence, no-contact while the PNM's are evaluatying their options. THen on Monday bid drop. THe schools only involvment is the intital meeting, bid drop and coordinating rush monitors to ensure that their are no violations of the recruitment by-laws. Thats about it.

I honestly cant say which system is better.

FuzzieAlum · #32 09-11-2002, 03:15 PM

Lifesaver, do you mind if I ask you a few more questions? I know guys's rush at my school lasts about three weeks ... but it sounds like yours is less than a week. Is that typical?

Also, and this is maybe just different from school to school, but several of our chapters do similar events. Like I know that lots of chapters were going to an Indians game. (But still, no one messes with anyone's signature events!) Do ya'll do anything like that?

Thank you!!!

lifesaver · #33 09-11-2002, 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by FuzzieAlum
Lifesaver, do you mind if I ask you a few more questions? I know guys's rush at my school lasts about three weeks ... but it sounds like yours is less than a week. Is that typical?

Also, and this is maybe just different from school to school, but several of our chapters do similar events. Like I know that lots of chapters were going to an Indians game. (But still, no one messes with anyone's signature events!) Do ya'll do anything like that?

Thank you!!!

Ask all the questions you want babydoll.

Technically, ours lasts about that long, but there are some rules that affect what we can do and such.

We USED to really start rush the first week in June. The freshman would come through ortientation, and had the oprion of meeting the student orgs..we'd have a table set up there and talk with freshamn. We'd get a super large amount of PNM contacts. Two years ago the OL (Orientation Life) staff got rid of the event. So wed hang out at the orientation. God we used to be so tight with the staff too, th'd ask us for help with ours or whatever if they were short staffed. They l;iked us there because we could give unbiased opinons of the university and it made the freshman feel better about school, to have upperclassment to chat with and have at lunch, etc. Well that all changed this year...

Lang about mid -june this TROLL of a greek who is some big whig in his chapter (we'll call ABC) who happends to be on orientation staff with 3 of our brothers, and is in tight with the director of greek life (so tight that when she talks he has his hand up her ass making her mouth move). (I also dont know why he is so threatened by us. We recrutit two totally different groups. I seriously cant think of a single member they have EVER had who would be a good fit in our house. So I dont know what he was trying to accomplish with all this stuff) Anyway, he started filing her head whith a bunch of crap, (we were taking freshman off campus, getting the drunk. Not true this year..yeah, about 5 years ago.) etc, so they started sendign letters, etc. Fortunately our chapter advisor is an atty and was able to shoot down all their BULL SHIT mid-management arguments;
1) The freshamn werent students.
A: Yes they are. They get ID's and register. Does any other school let non-students register? The regents rules say they are, and thats like our cosntitution. B. Even if they werent, the school cant keep us from socializing with non-student either. Better come up with soemthing better.

Two weeks later we got another letter:
2)We couldnt be in the student center while orientation was going on.
A. Not a single rule prohibiting that. Anywhere

Finally they hit us with:
3) You must follow any rule or directive given by a faculkty or staff emember, and anyone who does not is in violation of the regents rules. (that is on the books) THe legal version of your moms admonition as a child, "go to your room till you learn to behave." WTF is that crap? Her boss was out of the state the whole tiuem this was going on. Pissed off our advisor to no end. So now he is basically going after her job and demanding a letter of apology.

I guess the GL director is pissed because our brother that was her little bitch graduated and cant be her fu*k buddy anymore.

So sad fer her. Anyway, hookah is gonna be pushing a brorom by the time its all done.

(Sorry for that not so brief tangent..needed to vent...feel better.)

So we now start rush at the beginning of school, at move in. We help people move intot the dormas and apts on campus. Great event. Hot as hell - 100 degrees, humid as anything. UGH. then we have a few get togehters , bbqs that weekend, and school starts the next monday. We set up tables oiutside of the biggest lecture hall bldg. We do that for 1-week. The next week, we do that, but also have our main recruitment events. (in the meantime our members are identifying blue-chip PNM's and making visits to them at theior dorms or apts. THen we have our events and follow up.

I couldnt imagine a longer rush whith formal events. I am so sick of rush right now. Glad its over. Our dinner and NMC is Friday night. Cant wait.

KDHoney · #34 09-11-2002, 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by lifesaver

I guess the GL director is pissed because our brother that was her little bitch graduated and cant be her fu*k buddy anymore. So sad fer her. Anyway, hookah is gonna be pushing a brorom by the time its all done.

(Sorry for that not so brief tangent..needed to vent...feel better.)

I can understand the need to vent lifesaver and I'm glad you got everything straightened out, but your tangent can work against the image you have as a good guy that is a member of a class-act organization. Just my 2 cents...

lifesaver · #35 09-11-2002, 05:49 PM

I know, its just outta frustration that I say that. Theres only one other person from my school on here, and anyone atmy school knows theres no way my brother couldda been hooking up with her. Shes recently married and about 7 months pregnant.

They were just rally close which was cause for some speculation. I was playing off that. And anger. Plus, If I cant vent on an annonymous bullieten board, where can I vent?