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03-12-2021, 02:44 PM
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They released the 911 call. Tough to listen to. I only got about halfway through and stopped. Seems like the person who called is emotionless at first and then the gravity of the situation hits her. Truly sad.
https://www.13abc.com/video/2021/03/...u-hazing-call/
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03-12-2021, 04:43 PM
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Absolutely heartbreaking. I was barely able to listen to the entire thing, but my heart aches for the young people in that apartment on that 911 call. I hope they are taking the time they need and getting the support they deserve because I cannot imagine trying to move on with a regular semester after something like that, let alone this hybrid online COVID semester.
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03-13-2021, 02:43 PM
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A life altering event for all involved. Should this be required listening for all teenagers/young adults?
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03-28-2021, 07:51 PM
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His parents speak out on GMA
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03-29-2021, 09:52 AM
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So of course they're suing the national organization because that's where the money is. They're going to find out that fraternities are legally structured in such a way that makes it very difficult to hold the national organization accountable. They'll find that Pi Kappa Alpha regularly sends consultants to educate and report regarding hazing and that the local organization was able to hide this behavior from the national organization.
They'll find the property itself is probably in an LLC which means that even if there is a judgment, (at least in my State), the best they can do is get a charging order which is an order to pay from the profits of the LLC--and the LLC will continue to reinvest 100% of its income back into the property. Their best bet is to sue the individual fellow students, and honestly, not very many civil attorneys are interested in collecting a judgment against a 21 year old kid. There'll be a swarm of press coverage for awhile, but I don't think there'll be justice.
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03-29-2021, 10:38 AM
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Their best bet is to sue the individual fellow students, and honestly, not very many civil attorneys are interested in collecting a judgment against a 21 year old kid. There'll be a swarm of press coverage for awhile, but I don't think there'll be justice.
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Kevin, what was the final outcome from the 2012 Pi Kappa Alpha hazing death of Northern Illinois University student David Bogenberger? Was justice served in that instance?
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03-29-2021, 11:02 AM
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https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...130-story.html
The national organization was dismissed as not liable. A $14 million settlement was reached. 98% of that was paid by the 44 individuals, 22 members, and 22 women who were present, who were named co-defendants. The fraternity chapter itself paid around 2% or by my math, $280,000. The 22 young men who were involved pled to misdemeanors. All this after 6 years of litigation.
https://fraternallaw.com/newsletter2...ger-settlement
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04-29-2021, 02:37 PM
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Eight people have been charged.
"Eight people have been indicted in the alcohol-related death of an Ohio college student who was found unconscious after a fraternity party, prosecutors said Thursday.
A grand jury indicted the eight on charges ranging from involuntary manslaughter to hazing."
"Six of those indicted were charged with involuntary manslaughter, which carries a maximum penalty of three years in prison, according to Wood County Prosecutor Paul Dobson.
Other charges included reckless homicide, felonious assault, hazing, violating underage alcohol laws and obstructing official business.
The hazing and failing to comply with underage alcohol laws reflect that those charged gave copious amounts of alcohol to Foltz and the other new fraternity members, Dobson said in a statement."
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/...party-77398102
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04-29-2021, 06:42 PM
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�� Major coverage of the above story on CBS evening news just now. There were photos of all those involved and interviews with the family of the young man who died. So very, very sad...
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05-29-2022, 10:29 AM
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Outcome of Criminal Trial in Stone Foltz's death March 2021
Bumping to share this article from the NY Times about the outcome of the trial. Am a subscriber, so the link should work (10 free articles/month to share as part of subscription & I just checked the hotlink on my end).
Honestly I have no words for this. Madness abounds.
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05-29-2022, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by AZTheta
Bumping to share this article from the NY Times about the outcome of the trial. Am a subscriber, so the link should work (10 free articles/month to share as part of subscription & I just checked the hotlink on my end).
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Eric F. Long, a lawyer for Mr. Henricksen, said the jury’s verdict gave his client “his future back.”
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Talk about a tone deaf statement.
Sadly, the outcome doesn't really shock me. These students will move on, and we'll wait until the next story hits the news.
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05-30-2022, 06:32 AM
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A life altering event for all involved. Should this be required listening for all teenagers/young adults?
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Nolan Burch’s family released this: https://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...dent?_amp=true
It’s a documentary about his death, but also what to do if someone you’re with is experiencing alcohol poisoning. It actually makes me mad that you can’t click on the video in this article because it’s age restricted. As of high school students don’t drink!
https://abc6onyourside.com/amp/on-yo...g-act-7-6-2021
These two families in Ohio are working to increase hazing penalties. Collin’s Law is now in effect.
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