Are Jewish sororities going to be pressured/forced by NPC to change their rituals?

[carnation]

I still can't figure out why anyone thought that was a better thing. There were those who spouted that it prevented hazing but I have never seen any proof of that.

My pledge class felt cherished during that time.

[honeychile]

I was told (truthfully or not) that the shorter pledge program was for better retention of each pledge class. Well, yes and no. Pledges did have to learn everything that FSUZeta mentioned above, keep their grades up, and get to know their chapter sisters & pledges. For some pledges, that was a deal breaker, and they would depledge. Others thrived on this system, getting to know their sorority on a more personal level. Some of the ways we learned are now considered hazing, such as pledge books - things that most who had to have them enjoyed. I never heard of anyone who was punished for not having one, but I'm sure that there are bad apple chapters who did.

I can't help but feel that in most cases, the bad apple chapters ruined it for everyone.

So... now we have New Members who don't understand the whys behind their own rituals, and they want to change things to suit them. It doesn't - and shouldn't! - work that way!

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by honeychile

I was told (truthfully or not) that the shorter pledge program was for better retention of each pledge class. Well, yes and no. Pledges did have to learn everything that FSUZeta mentioned above, keep their grades up, and get to know their chapter sisters & pledges. For some pledges, that was a deal breaker, and they would depledge. Others thrived on this system, getting to know their sorority on a more personal level. Some of the ways we learned are now considered hazing, such as pledge books - things that most who had to have them enjoyed. I never heard of anyone who was punished for not having one, but I'm sure that there are bad apple chapters who did.

I can't help but feel that in most cases, the bad apple chapters ruined it for everyone.

So... now we have New Members who don't understand the whys behind their own rituals, and they want to change things to suit them. It doesn't - and shouldn't! - work that way!

The cynic in me says that the shortened pledge periods are all about HQs getting all of those initiate fees which would ordinarily not be paid due to attrition during the semester. If nothing else, that's a pretty serious bonus. Probably amounts to some pretty serious money for larger orgs.

[Cheerio]

Originally Posted by honeychile

So... now we have New Members who don't understand the whys behind their own rituals, and they want to change things to suit them. It doesn't - and shouldn't! - work that way!

This type of entitlement reminds me of something orange.

[Kevin]

*changed my above answer because it is possible that if someone was banned, all of their posts may have been deleted and I couldn't see that.

[Cookiez17]

Yes. I saw several threads where fraternities were basically putting their new member periods to a week in an attempt to curb obviously harmful hazing. I know new member periods vary from campus to campus but from what i've seen most average it to end between 6-8 weeks.

[Sororitysock]

Originally Posted by Cookiez17

Yes. I saw several threads where fraternities were basically putting their new member periods to a week in an attempt to curb obviously harmful hazing. I know new member periods vary from campus to campus but from what i've seen most average it to end between 6-8 weeks.

New member period lengths are not decided upon by the school. They are decided upon by each NPC sorority's headquarters. The way that the new member period length and curriculum are decided may vary from sorority depending on their internal rules and processes (e.g.: the executive board makes the changes or it's voted upon during convention etc.), but the school has nothing to do with it. I don't understand why you'd talk about fraternity new member periods in a thread devoted to NPC sororities and not even mention fraternities.

It's very nice to see a young and relatively new sorority member so enthusiastic about our organizations here. However, as several have mentioned to you previously, you need to dial back on spreading what amounts to gossip and conjecture.

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by Cookiez17

Yes. I saw several threads where fraternities were basically putting their new member periods to a week in an attempt to curb obviously harmful hazing. I know new member periods vary from campus to campus but from what i've seen most average it to end between 6-8 weeks.

BUT WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT MEN'S FRATERNITIES! For the love of Pete.... Men's organizations are vastly different from women's sororities in many of their policies and practices. Please don't confuse things. It is hard enough to keep up with the truth already.

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by thetalady

BUT WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT MEN'S FRATERNITIES! For the love of Pete.... Men's organizations are vastly different from women's sororities in many of their policies and practices. Please don't confuse things. It is hard enough to keep up with the truth already.

Amen!!!!

[AZTheta]

It's "whittle" not "widdle". Sigh.

And Sen, I saw your post. Where did it go??? Who moved it? This isn't the first time it's happened, either. Not only to you. I queried and got a similarly unhelpful reply. This was some time ago and I just dropped it. Counterproductive.

[Titchou]

For NPC groups it started with school admin trying to curb hazing and pushing the groups for shortened pledge periods. Last I heard, all but Chi Omega had gone to 6 weeks. they still have semester long...but that may have changed by now.

[carnation]

Didn't someone recently tell us that Chi O did go to 6 weeks? I swear I heard that.

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by carnation

Didn't someone recently tell us that Chi O did go to 6 weeks? I swear I heard that.

Last I heard they were the only ones still making new members wait until after the semester had ended and they had made their grades to initiate.

[Cheerio]

Originally Posted by Titchou

For NPC groups it started with school admin trying to curb hazing and pushing the groups for shortened pledge periods. Last I heard, all but Chi Omega had gone to 6 weeks. they still have semester long...but that may have changed by now.

Originally Posted by carnation

Didn't someone recently tell us that Chi O did go to 6 weeks? I swear I heard that.

Do I recall Chi Omega being able to initiate classes from second semester primary recruitments at six weeks, since most of those students had already made grades during first semester? And where a campus only allows UC to be recruited (no frosh) isn't a six week initiation then allowed by Chi Omega?

[PGD-GRAD]

Or someONE......