NPC appoints Community College Task Force

[Cookiez17]

As an ex cheerleader Cheer was so good! Would 100% give it a recommendation.

[breathesgelatin]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Do you mean they get a bachelor’s degree?

Yup, this is becoming more and more a thing at community colleges and I expect we'll only see it continue to expand with the realities of COVID. My local community college has two bachelors degrees on offer, both pretty new programs.
https://www.austincc.edu/news/2019/0...te-bsn-program

https://www.austincc.edu/news/2019/0...ee-spring-2020

Originally Posted by PittDZ

Here in Texas, we have 2 programs that accept community college students. The one at Texas A&M is called Blinn Team and the one at the University of Texas is called PACE. Students attend CC + 1 class at the main university for Freshman year and are guaranteed admission if they attain a certain GPA, which I think is about a 3.2-3.5. I believe they are limited to certain majors, such as Communications, Education, Liberal Arts, and Social Work. Most of the sororities accept these transfer students although, if I am being honest, they are not usually at the top of their lists. Most of these students were of the caliber of wait list students at major universities which, in Texas, are those that were not in the top 10-15% of their graduating classes. This is clearly difficult for those that attend high-performing suburban high schools with high academic standards which, in every other state, would be sought after students by your state universities. That is why so many of our top students attend out-of-state universities, such as Oklahoma, Missouri, LSU, Ole Miss, Alabama, Auburn, and Arkansas.

That's pretty accurate about PACE, but remember right now automatic admission to UT is top 6% of your high school class. You can be top 7% and not get in. I can't speak to sorority recruitment but there are some out of this world PACE students from an academic standpoint.

Originally Posted by 33girl

This is another thought I had as to why this task force was created. Are local groups forming at the CCs, the CCs are worried about risk management, and they want national groups to help shoulder the burden?

Something kind of like that is happening with fraternities at UT. (UT chapters underground pledging community college students.) Not with sororities though.

[mlanderson]

Subscribing to this thread. This is fascinating to me and I think it really needs to be looked at hard if trends with virtual degrees and push back on exclusivity of Greek life continues. We may need more city based organizations like NPHC groups. Would definitely help for alumnae engagement.

[Cheerio]

Bumping this interesting thread. Has any NPC group voted to expand to CCs should the NPC allow same?

Additionally, today marks the 119th anniversary of the NPC's founding.

[Cookiez17]

Here's to 119 years and many more!

I have been looking around the NPC blog and haven't seen anything regarding it. Maybe as colleges reopen they'll look more into it.

[Cheerio]

Bumping, incase there has been movement from the NPC.

[Cheerio]

There have been more than a few smaller, 4-year schools opening for NPC expansion over the past decade where it's ended up that NO NPC groups have 'taken the bait' to expand. What could possibly make community colleges a more attractive, desirable option for expansion by an NPC group over one of those NPC-rejected schools?

[naraht]

Originally Posted by Cheerio

There have been more than a few smaller, 4-year schools opening for NPC expansion over the past decade where it's ended up that NO NPC groups have 'taken the bait' to expand. What could possibly make community colleges a more attractive, desirable option for expansion by an NPC group over one of those NPC-rejected schools?

Possibly sheer numbers. If a community college has 30,000 students and the 4-year school has 1,500, the CC *might* be better able to keep a chapter.

*However*, the experience of Alpha Phi Omega (Scouting Fraternity at that point) in the late 1960s and early 1970s might be useful. Prior to the 1960s, Alpha Phi Omega had a few chapters at 2-year schools, but they mostly weren't what we would call traditional Community Colleges. During the late 1960s and early 1970s, there was an effort to consider Community Colleges as well and about 30 chapters were created that that type of school. Today, none of those chapters are active. I believe that right now there are two active Co. One is a close in feed CC to University of Illinois where the chapter at U of Illinois can help support and the other is at Georgia Military College which isn't a normal CC.

[clemsongirl]

Originally Posted by Cheerio

There have been more than a few smaller, 4-year schools opening for NPC expansion over the past decade where it's ended up that NO NPC groups have 'taken the bait' to expand. What could possibly make community colleges a more attractive, desirable option for expansion by an NPC group over one of those NPC-rejected schools?

I can also think of a couple other reasons. The CC might be in an area with a ton of alumni interested in volunteering, whereas I know some of the 4-year schools that didn't get any interest were in the middle of goddamn nowhere and probably didn't have any kind of alumni base nearby for any organization.

Also, some 4-year schools have either former national orgs gone local, always-local orgs, or other student orgs filling a similar niche that have serious RFM and/or hazing concerns. If a school already has a strong hazing culture, it makes perfect sense that no NPC group would want to swim against the current trying to create a chapter where hazing isn't tolerated when every other social group on campus does it. A community college that's essentially a blank slate in terms of student org campus culture would be a much easier and safer choice.

[AGDee]

We have a couple universities (Eastern Michigan, Western Michigan, Wayne State) that I can think of off the top of my head where students take some of their classes at the main university but some of the basics at a community college. So they are half time at each. It has caused membership questions since they aren't full time. It saves them a TON of money though. In situations like that, it could make sense. There's also a community college in Texas where the students are automatically transferred to the 4 year University, isn't there? It's a niche case, but it exists.

[thetalady]

Originally Posted by AGDee

We have a couple universities (Eastern Michigan, Western Michigan, Wayne State) that I can think of off the top of my head where students take some of their classes at the main university but some of the basics at a community college. So they are half time at each. It has caused membership questions since they aren't full time. It saves them a TON of money though. In situations like that, it could make sense. There's also a community college in Texas where the students are automatically transferred to the 4 year University, isn't there? It's a niche case, but it exists.

You are probably thinking of Blinn College and Texas A&M in Bryan, TX

[PKT4LIFE]

Does anyone know any NPC update RE: Expanding to CC?

I found this on Alpha Sigma Alpha web site:
https://www.alphasigmaalpha.org/news...re-task-force/

[Iota_JWH]

I believe NPC usually meets in late October. I think that ASA is just preparing for a change, just in case the rules change.

[naraht]

Are there any NPC Sororities that would be able to return to their founding (or early) schools if these rules went into effect? While some of those were two year at the time, I tend to expect that most of those of those schools are either no longer around or have become four year schools.

[Cookiez17]

Tri Delta said in their latest issue of the trident that they may extend into community colleges in the future. I am curious to see how this process would work not only for my own sorority but if others decide to follow suit.