Indiana University Recruitment 2020

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Cheerio

33, do you hold your opinion because publicizing that some groups are holding Invite Only events leads pnms who await an invite to feel bad about not getting one? If IU didn't publicize which chapters are holding Invite Only events, the social internet boards would go crazy with speculation on which groups are/aren't holding them based upon rumor. Having actual dates and times listed for Invite Only events on the IU site could lead to people protesting that specific type of event, during the actual event, outside the houses.

No, I hold that opinion because I think PNMs should know if they have, in effect, been “cut.” If they know ABC is holding one event on February 1 and they haven’t gotten an invite, they can stop saying “well maybe ABC will have some more events and I’ll get invited then.” It would be one thing if this was a few days, but the time frame is until MARCH. You know there are going to be girls who keep holding out hope that never comes. It would be a lot more considerate to let them know that chance has come and gone. During formal rush, they know if ABC cuts them they should look elsewhere for a Greek affiliation. Why can the women participating in COB not be given that same consideration?

And no, why on earth would you say what time? As far as “protesting that type of event” - WHAT? Couldn’t that happen ANY day during rush?

All they have to say is:
ABC - invite only, Feb 1 and 3
DEF - invite only, Jan 24
Please bring your student ID so you can be verified on the sorority’s invitation list. Women who are not on the list will not be admitted.

Panhellenic should either be transparent or just stay out of COB completely.

[pinkmama]

Originally Posted by 33girl

No, I hold that opinion because I think PNMs should know if they have, in effect, been “cut.” If they know ABC is holding one event on February 1 and they haven’t gotten an invite, they can stop saying “well maybe ABC will have some more events and I’ll get invited then.” It would be one thing if this was a few days, but the time frame is until MARCH. You know there are going to be girls who keep holding out hope that never comes. It would be a lot more considerate to let them know that chance has come and gone. During formal rush, they know if ABC cuts them they should look elsewhere for a Greek affiliation. Why can the women participating in COB not be given that same consideration?

And no, why on earth would you say what time? As far as “protesting that type of event” - WHAT? Couldn’t that happen ANY day during rush?

All they have to say is:
ABC - invite only, Feb 1 and 3
DEF - invite only, Jan 24
Please bring your student ID so you can be verified on the sorority’s invitation list. Women who are not on the list will not be admitted.

Panhellenic should either be transparent or just stay out of COB completely.

Totally agree because girls may give up a call for an opportunity because they are holding out for a possible better opportunity that may never ever come because
It was invite only meaning they don’t need or want a lot more and it’s selective (pretty much know who they want already ). The invite only is just a formality they are required to register as “informal”

[carnation]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Please bring your student ID so you can be verified on the sorority’s invitation list. Women who are not on the list will not be admitted.

Oh dear. I'm thinking about bad scenes at the front door from the non-invited.

[95SisterMom19]

Originally Posted by 33girl

No, I hold that opinion because I think PNMs should know if they have, in effect, been “cut.” If they know ABC is holding one event on February 1 and they haven’t gotten an invite, they can stop saying “well maybe ABC will have some more events and I’ll get invited then.” It would be one thing if this was a few days, but the time frame is until MARCH. You know there are going to be girls who keep holding out hope that never comes. It would be a lot more considerate to let them know that chance has come and gone. During formal rush, they know if ABC cuts them they should look elsewhere for a Greek affiliation. Why can the women participating in COB not be given that same consideration?

Houses that are invite only, won’t be holding “events.” They more than likely will call the handful of girls they want, invite them over for pizza, and offer them a bid. These houses already know who they want and aren’t looking to meet new girls or reconnect with girls they didn’t choose during formal. I would bet 75% of the houses had girls over last night and offered their bids. Once those bids are filled, they will close their informal rush, so the March time frame is really only for houses who have lots of spots they need/want to fill.

Informal is really only beneficial to girls with connections to a house through friends/recruitment and girls who are interested in joining one of the open invite houses.

[pinkmama]

Alpha Chi Omega looks like they made quota per the pic on instagram as well.

[2023txmom]

Hi All,
What a wonderful tool this is. By reading your comments it is obvious that some of you have tons of experience!
I have a PMN that just competed rush at IU. She did not get the result that she was hoping for, and has signed up for informal.
She is OOS and I am wondering if you think this played a key roll in her not finding a home.
I know there are many other factors involved, so if you need more information, please let me know.
The community we live in has a very active Panhellenic Board. I want to provide them with feedback as to "if or what" they can do differently to help OOS PMN's in the future. My daughter is not the only PMN that did not receive the outcome that was hoped for.
Thank You!

[carnation]

There's really nothing that Panhellenic can do for any OOS girls. The girls themselves must get on the sororities' radar early on and try to meet as many sorority members as they can. This applies at any college.

[2023txmom]

The feedback she received was to keep on the "low" not attend parties,etc. She did participate in their annual dance-a-thon and met a few girls there.
The question is more geared as to advice Panhellenic can give to OOS girls.

[carnation]

See, it's kind of like recruitment at any competitive school. Hundreds of in-state girls have been on the sororities' radar for years, the girls they grew up with/went to school with, etc. Somehow, out-of-staters have to gain their attention (positively).

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by 2023txmom

Hi All,
What a wonderful tool this is. By reading your comments it is obvious that some of you have tons of experience!
I have a PMN that just competed rush at IU. She did not get the result that she was hoping for, and has signed up for informal.
She is OOS and I am wondering if you think this played a key roll in her not finding a home.
I know there are many other factors involved, so if you need more information, please let me know.
The community we live in has a very active Panhellenic Board. I want to provide them with feedback as to "if or what" they can do differently to help OOS PMN's in the future. My daughter is not the only PMN that did not receive the outcome that was hoped for.
Thank You!

Originally Posted by 2023txmom

The feedback she received was to keep on the "low" not attend parties,etc. She did participate in their annual dance-a-thon and met a few girls there.
The question is more geared as to advice Panhellenic can give to OOS girls.

Panhellenic provides the same information to in-state women as they do to those from out-of-state. They are essentially a neutral party. All potential members essentially have the same chance to join a chapter. Being in-state can help you or can hurt you. The same goes for out-of-state. There are no special rules or tips for out-of-state women. Prepare to dress well, look presentable, have recs in ahead of formal recruitment, and practice conversation skills. This, in a nutshell, is what all potential members can do to get ready for recruitment.

Your daughter didn't receive the outcome she wanted, and that goes for a lot of other women too - both in-state and out-of-state. Stop asking the 'why' and help your daughter get ready for informal recruitment. Because you could give us all of the information in the world on your daughter, and no one here will be able to tell you why she didn't receive a bid. Or maybe she did receive invites back, but she turned them down? Either way, what's done is done. There's no way to know if her being out-of-state hurt her chances.

I will say, though, that it seems joining as an out-of-stater has become an easier task overall, as so many students are now going outside of their home state (or country!) to attend school. The same can be said for legacies. While being a legacy certainly helps with a particular chapter, there are now so many legacies going through recruitment that chapters simply can't take them all.

Anyway, as the Boy Scouts say: Be Prepared. That's all any potential member can do. There's no way to change your daughter's out-of-state status, so doing all the research, looking presentable, and having good conversations is what's going to propel her forward in this process.

Good luck to her!

[2023txmom]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

Panhellenic provides the same information to in-state women as they do to those from out-of-state. They are essentially a neutral party. All potential members essentially have the same chance to join a chapter. Being in-state can help you or can hurt you. The same goes for out-of-state. There are no special rules or tips for out-of-state women. Prepare to dress well, look presentable, have recs in ahead of formal recruitment, and practice conversation skills. This, in a nutshell, is what all potential members can do to get ready for recruitment.

Your daughter didn't receive the outcome she wanted, and that goes for a lot of other women too - both in-state and out-of-state. Stop asking the 'why' and help your daughter get ready for informal recruitment. Because you could give us all of the information in the world on your daughter, and no one here will be able to tell you why she didn't receive a bid. Or maybe she did receive invites back, but she turned them down? Either way, what's done is done. There's no way to know if her being out-of-state hurt her chances.

I will say, though, that it seems joining as an out-of-stater has become an easier task overall, as so many students are now going outside of their home state (or country!) to attend school. The same can be said for legacies. While being a legacy certainly helps with a particular chapter, there are now so many legacies going through recruitment that chapters simply can't take them all.

Anyway, as the Boy Scouts say: Be Prepared. That's all any potential member can do. There's no way to change your daughter's out-of-state status, so doing all the research, looking presentable, and having good conversations is what's going to propel her forward in this process.

Good luck to her!

Thank you for your post. You are wise in saying to stop focussing on the "WHY". I can get stuck there, especially when my kids are involved!

Rec letters were sent on time, research was done, she looked amazing and had great conversations. She met some amazingly strong, young women.

My advice will be "Keep being you"

[GreekOne]

Originally Posted by 2023txmom

My advice will be "Keep being you"

Best advice out there Momma! At the end of the day, she should find a group of women that love her for just that. Pretending to be someone you aren't won't make her happy in the end.

My D is from OOS. She knew no one on campus when she arrived. She is a happy Jr now. I would say just have her be confident and reach out to every one of those chapters holding informal. There are email addresses listed on the Panhel website for a contact in each group. While she may have registered for informal through her Rho Gam, I would tell her to reach our directly to these chapter contacts and reintroduce herself mentioning something she remembered or liked about those groups. There won't be a lot of bids given out so she should be proactive.

[IndianaSigKap]

There are many OOS girls at IU and in the Greek system. While that may have made it more difficult in the sense that your daughter did not have girls from her hometown pulling for her in a particular chapter, it also helped her in the sense that no one had any preconceived ideas of her either.

I am glad to hear she has signed up for informal. Can she contact any of the girls from IUDM and let them know she is interested in informal? Even as new members, they could put in a good word for her or put her on the recruitment team's radar.

[2023txmom]

May I what IUDM is?

[IndianaSigKap]

Originally Posted by 2023txmom

May I what IUDM is?

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