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Old 08-24-2002, 11:15 AM
Rio_Kohitsuji Rio_Kohitsuji is offline
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Does TKE "own" just you or your ideas as well?

-Rudey
--I'd ask for a refund or a return if I was a TKE

Umm...quick note...this wasn't anything dealing with TKE...and I really do not see how anything I said was associated with it either..try to stick on subject dear....

By the way..the 'own' thing is an inside joke w/in the chapter, nothing for you to be concerned with..I'm a big girl..I have my own identity..trust me..*smiles politely*
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Old 08-24-2002, 12:16 PM
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Related question:

Do you think that castrating a pedophile or rapist before he is released (if he is released) would really solve anything?

I think that is someone wants to hurt a child they'll do it regardless. Castration will prevent rape in the traditional sense but they will still have the ability to sexually molest a child.

Please lets stay on topic here. This is a serious matter. Lets not get into pointless trash talking.
Castration and chemical "conditioning" are considered worthless. The only treatment that has a considerable impact is counseling.

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Old 08-24-2002, 12:51 PM
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Oh, who knew the day would ever come where I would agree with UF Pike?

Seriously, people, plenty of men (it's mostly men in my experience) are wrongly accused of crimes, either because of mistake or because the police are just plain wrong and want to get SOMEONE for a crime.

It doesn't bother me personally because I hear it all the time, but do we need the lawyer slamming? It's been very subtle in this thread, but I feel it lurking beneath the surface of some posts (and I've seen it in plenty of other threads recently). For real -- it is an attorney's job to do her best for her client. We're not all a festering blob of maggots writhing on a pile of shit looking for loopholes to get our scumbag clients out on the street again to abuse more children. If YOU were accused of a crime (especially one you didn't do) wouldn't you want an attorney who is going to do the best work for you? Whether or not you did it, it is the state's JOB to PROVE it beyond a reasonable doubt. Without safeguards (like good attorneys) in place, we wouldn't have a free society at all because the police could just round up people and throw them in jail whenver they felt like it -- and that could happen to YOU. Even when a defendant *is* guilty, defense attorneys are the ones working to ensure that the sentence is just. Believe me, sometimes state's attorneys want to impose sentences that are completely out of line for the crime committed. I see it every day.
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Old 08-24-2002, 01:25 PM
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guilty

Umm...

You DO realize that the guy admitted to sexually assaulting the baby..

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...news%2Dbroward


And though the mother is claiming the kid is "emotionally disturbed" (no, really?), she was present during the questioning.

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Old 08-24-2002, 01:30 PM
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Re: guilty

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Umm...

You DO realize that the guy admitted to sexually assaulting the baby..

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...news%2Dbroward


And though the mother is claiming the kid is "emotionally disturbed" (no, really?), she was present during the questioning.

Sometimes police fabricate a confession.
Sometimes a suspect is interrogated with intense pressure and confesses after being so worn down that he can barely keep his head up.
Sometimes a suspect doesn't have the ability to fully understand what a confession is.

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Old 08-24-2002, 02:10 PM
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Wow, can't believe this thread is still going. Guess this is what happens when you step away for a day. Anyway, I was just trying to play devil advocate. I didn't mean to sound hysterical, emotional, or lawyer bash. In fact, my dad his twin and their little sister are all graduates of the U of Iowa Law School. There were just certain comments made by a certain individual about becoming a hero by getting someone off the hook that I wanted to debate.

Fortunately, a little DNA testing should clear this case up pretty quickly. Then there will be little matter of debate who did this horrible thing and it can be properly dealt with in a court of law. My deepest sympathies to the families of all involved.
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Old 08-24-2002, 03:12 PM
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There were just certain comments made by a certain individual about becoming a hero by getting someone off the hook that I wanted to debate.



Look back to what I said. I never mentioned the phrase "becoming a hero" anywhere nor did the message imply that. Stop putting words in my mouth. Make reference to only that of which I wrote, not what you percieved the message to say.


UF-

* I hope this clears things up my young padwon*
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Old 08-24-2002, 03:19 PM
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Something I've noticed about you... You always have to have the last word don't you?

That's fine. You can have it.
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Old 08-24-2002, 03:21 PM
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Well, by posting that, YOU just took the last word.....well, now that I'm posting this, I'M taking the last word, then if someoen else posts, they'll......n/m
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