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01-11-2019, 11:15 PM
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These are the organizations under suspension/cease and desist/disciplinary status at IU as of 12/31/18. (Chi Omega is not listed, because that just happened today.)
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Alpha Phi Omega- Mu Chapter
Chicagoland Area Alumni Association
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01-11-2019, 11:17 PM
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@clayton117 Sounds like your daughter is in a good place. Can’t wait to hear how her weekend goes! You can give up wine next weekend :-)
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01-11-2019, 11:52 PM
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Ugh! Such a rough time! I was here last year when my daughter was going thru rush It’s a tad easier being on the other side, but I feel your stress and worry. Please encourage your girls to consider every house. My daughter ultimately found her home, and a great sisterhood, putting aside the ridiculous tier rankings.
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01-12-2019, 12:02 AM
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You re all so wise!!!! This afternoon, my daughter was disappointed with a few of her invites (or lack thereof...) I told her (repeating what you all have said...) "Give every house a chance - you have only met a few girls - etc..." She called after tonight's parties and told me that she liked a couple of houses that she wasn't sure about before. Thanks, everyone! Appreciate the advice. Next year, when I'm a pro (lol) - I'll pay it forward on this site to other pnm mamas! It's not over yet - Are pref round cuts as brutal as sisterhood?
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01-12-2019, 12:22 AM
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On further conversation with my D, there was one screamer, but that one was in close proximity and on the phone, probably with parents. Inconsolable in the moment :~(
My D enjoyed both of her first rounds. One in particular, that has been a favorite, continued to shine. She had great conversations with two girls she spoke with in earlier rounds and chatted with the chapter president, who she met last round, and was introduced to a few others. She said there were about 25 PNMs at each visit, so less chaotic and they didn't have to "line up" before going in. She told me she looked for the interactions of sisters with each other and found their affection for each other genuine (she listened to the passed on advice!) When the visits were over, she was feeling good and looking forward to a late dinner with friends.
When she returned to her dorm, it seemed like things had settled down and people were resigned to giving remaining chapters a fresh look or at least another chance. She thinks a few will sadly drop. Her friends seem to have a range of 3 to 8 houses remaining, and all have at least one house that they enjoyed in previous rounds.
Tomorrow she starts at 9am. I broke down and had a drink with dinner! Ha
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01-12-2019, 12:34 AM
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To those that asked about the dreaded "phone call" in this thread, it was very sad, but I appreciated it. The call came from a collegian not an adviser so I was polite and kind (though I was very sad!). I do appreciate that our GLO does offer that kindness to alumnae to at least allow them to lessen the sting for the legacies before the invite list comes out. By the time a Rho Gam stopped by, my D already knew she was not going back to her legacy chapter. In hindsight, I know that she is EXACTLY where she should be. It has been a perfect fit!
For those still going through the process, best of luck in these final days!
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01-12-2019, 12:52 AM
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Best of luck to all of you, trust the process, it does work. Hang in there, you are getting close!!
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01-12-2019, 08:03 AM
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My D texted us about the C&D last night just before the parties got started then we saw the IDS article. This has to be the worst time for that to happen. If the C&D turns out to be nothing then the chapter suffers, if the C&D holds then the PNM's could be the ones to suffer.
Hate this for anyone in the chapter or the PNM's that have to decide how to proceed. I don't know that the Quota would change. I know at my D's house and some others they had to ask for volunteers to not live in. Plus, the C&D won't be resolved anytime soon so I don't think they could really decide on an unknown.
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01-12-2019, 09:03 AM
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It would be pretty easy to absorb the girls that drop that chapter into the other houses if they just changed the quota by a little bit. Seems like the right idea to me.
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01-12-2019, 12:52 PM
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Can somebody answer either of theses questions:
1. A pnm has accepted and attended all of her invitations to all rounds and only gets invited to 1 pref. How many can she rank after pref round and what are her chances of getting a bid?
2. A pnm is invited to a pref round where she is a legacy. What are her chances of getting a bid from that house?
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01-12-2019, 01:24 PM
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To answer your questions:
1. If a PNM maximizes her options after the pref round—meaning she lists all the houses that she was invited to for pref, she is “guaranteed” a bid (unless she does something unthinkable that would get her kicked out of recruitment between the time she ranks and when the lists are submitted.) If she only is invited to one house for pref round—and she lists that one house on her card, congrats, she knows her house.
2. Each group has their own legacy policy. If it is your GLO, check your recruitment manual—or call HQ for the details. Many groups have a policy that if you are invited to pref, you have to be at the top of the first list. Others say you have to be at the top of the second list. Some have a different policy. With the RFM, in my understanding, you essentially have three “passes” by the computer to attempt to match the girl to her first choice. Many times if a legacy is not matched to her legacy house on bid day it is because she listed the house as second (and perhaps lied about how she ranked.)
If the person you are asking about has one invitation and it is to her legacy house, breathe easy and perhaps pre-shop for a bid day gift.
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01-12-2019, 08:29 PM
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Thanks, Theta1234 for the response.
I think I private messaged you but I am new to this Greekchat.
Good luck to all pnms tomorrow! Praying that everyone who has trusted the process this far finds a home
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01-12-2019, 08:38 PM
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My D had great visits today. She really found something to like at every house and was paired with some terrific girls. She called me on her walk back to dorm... was already solid on her top two, and wanted to discuss the top of her bottom list. After talking it out, she feels she has made the best choices for herself and can comfortably see herself in 4 of the houses. I am crossing my fingers that she gets invited to pref round in at least one of her top two.
Sounds like the crappy situation with the chapter on C and D is complicating things for the girls who had that house on their list. My D has 2 friends who had them this round, and were notified by their RGs that they have to go to the union to fill out and turn in their lists under the supervision of recruitment officials. These girls were very torn about the troubled chapter. She also says a few friends are suiciding, feeling a connection at only one chapter on their lists. Doesn't sound like a good idea to me, but as the saying goes, not my monkeys...
Hope all the kiddos found connections today, and kudos to the girls behind the scenes and welcoming all these girls to their homes.
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01-12-2019, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by clayton117
My D had great visits today. She really found something to like at every house and was paired with some terrific girls. She called me on her walk back to dorm... was already solid on her top two, and wanted to discuss the top of her bottom list. After talking it out, she feels she has made the best choices for herself and can comfortably see herself in 4 of the houses. I am crossing my fingers that she gets invited to pref round in at least one of her top two.
Sounds like the crappy situation with the chapter on C and D is complicating things for the girls who had that house on their list. My D has 2 friends who had them this round, and were notified by their RGs that they have to go to the union to fill out and turn in their lists under the supervision of recruitment officials. These girls were very torn about the troubled chapter. She also says a few friends are suiciding, feeling a connection at only one chapter on their lists. Doesn't sound like a good idea to me, but as the saying goes, not my monkeys...
Hope all the kiddos found connections today, and kudos to the girls behind the scenes and welcoming all these girls to their homes.
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Glad your daughter found more of a connection with a couple of chapters that weren't in her top two, also. That bodes well for her keeping an open mind about what happens tomorrow. Best of luck to her, and keep us posted!
Also, you're correct. The c&d situation isn't good for the PNMs nor the actives in that chapter. I know that if I were a PNM, I'd be keeping all my options open in that situation, but if someone really feels a connection to that chapter, it would be difficult to make a decision.
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01-12-2019, 08:51 PM
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^ Women cannot "suicide" this round. They must list two top choices and then rank their remaining chapters. They must attend every chapter they are invited to tomorrow or they will be released from recruitment.
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