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02-08-2018, 12:04 AM
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Cornell Zeta Beta Tau "Pig Roast" contest; extra points for sex with heaviest woman
https://www.buzzfeed.com/juliareinst...y4m#.mi1bDRGDo
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New members acquired "points" by having sex with women, and "in the event of a tie, additional points were awarded to the new member who had had sex with a woman who had weighed the most."
The new members were told not to tell the women about the contest.
After an investigation that concluded in January, the ZBT chapter was placed on two years of probation.
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02-08-2018, 12:33 PM
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This revolting stuff has been around for awhile. When I was at Arkansas, one of the dorms had an annual Pig In a Poke party and the prize went to the guy with the heaviest date. I can't imagine the girls' horror when they figured it out.
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02-08-2018, 01:51 PM
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And as if all the hazing and alcohol-related horror stories aren’t enough, then THESE fools pull something like this. Sometimes I feel like we as Greeks (men at least) have actually DIGRESSED. It’s just demoralizing. We should all be EMPOWERING each other, especially with the METOO movement. It’s almost as if there’s a feeling that it’s OKAY to be rude and sexist.
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02-09-2018, 03:36 AM
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If true, this surely is a new low.
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02-09-2018, 07:26 AM
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Should they be suspended and or sanctioned for Code of Conduct rules of the school?
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02-09-2018, 09:51 AM
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I don't think the school could sanction them like that as Cornell is a strange public/private amalgamation. Public schools really can't (or at least shouldn't) be in the business of sanctioning students for offensive speech.
The national office is another story.
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02-09-2018, 01:01 PM
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With all the talk about political correctness, Millennials sobbing over people getting their feelings hurt and needing safe spaces, this chapter obviously didn't get the memo. Those poor women who are invited to this event will probably live with the pain for years, if not a lifetime.
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02-09-2018, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by honeychile
With all the talk about political correctness, Millennials sobbing over people getting their feelings hurt and needing safe spaces, this chapter obviously didn't get the memo.
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I think all of the PCness sort of exacerbates the need for some people to act awful--just because they can. College is a place where people test boundaries. Here's a pretty good example of where some students tested their boundaries and vastly exceeded them.
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02-09-2018, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin
I think all of the PCness sort of exacerbates the need for some people to act awful--just because they can. College is a place where people test boundaries. Here's a pretty good example of where some students tested their boundaries and vastly exceeded them.
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Agreeing, and repeating the key word here: VASTLY!
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02-11-2018, 02:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
I don't think the school could sanction them like that as Cornell is a strange public/private amalgamation. Public schools really can't (or at least shouldn't) be in the business of sanctioning students for offensive speech.
The national office is another story.
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The sanctions appear to be for the conduct of the students involved. I do not see how the actions of the university against the fraternity seek to forbid communication by the fraternity of specific ideas (i.e., content of speech). They are not being punished for what they said, but for what they did.
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02-11-2018, 03:20 PM
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It's a distinction with very little difference. If the conduct was intended to convey a message and the audience perceives the message as intended, we see the same protections kick in. Universities often overstep what they should be allowed to do simply because most of our organizations fail to defend their rights. We have a right to offensive speech and offensive conduct.
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02-11-2018, 03:51 PM
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If there is little difference between regulation of conduct vs. content, there wouldn't be 150+ U.S. Supreme Court cases dealing with freedom of speech.
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02-11-2018, 05:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kevin
I don't think the school could sanction them like that as Cornell is a strange public/private amalgamation. Public schools really can't (or at least shouldn't) be in the business of sanctioning students for offensive speech.
The national office is another story.
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For what it's worth, Cornell is a private university. They can suspend whomever they want for whatever speech they want. Three of its colleges are state-supported, since they are the land-grant school for the state of New York, but the school on the whole is not controlled by the state of NY.
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