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Old 02-01-2018, 09:38 PM
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I have a daughter that is pledging right now. She told me that some of the rules given to the new members include no pre-gaming before socials and drink nothing but beer. This is representative of the direction sororities are taking to improve the situation. They can't control if a fraternity is serving vodka but they can control the expectation of their own members that they do not partake. The culture has to change somewhere and I think this is a positive start.
That is ridiculous. They should not be saying that to young underage women. If they said that during chapter - they could be held liable if someone were to trip on the stairs or worse pass out and have some man they don't know take them home.

You can still get quite sick off beer and (especially for a small woman) - binge drinking is deadly.
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7 or 8 beers can kill you
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Old 02-01-2018, 07:32 PM
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And everything is BYO now because for liability reasons, it is verboten to use fraternity money to purchase alcohol unless it is to procure the services of a cash bar with its own liability policy. And because we've stepped back from controlling the alcohol because we don't want to be liable, we've ceded all of those decisions to kids who would already be doing something illegal in most cases by drinking in the first place. We've also ceded that ground because as an adviser, I don't want to be arrested for contributing to the delinquency of minors when some members decide to throw a house party I don't know about.
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Old 02-01-2018, 08:08 PM
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PhilTau, You didn't serve trash can punch? As a pledge I was warned to avoid that at all costs. It could be very strong-often made with Everclear, and then, you never knew what else might have been added in. I drank canned Cokes at socials to be safe.
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Old 02-01-2018, 10:44 PM
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PhilTau, You didn't serve trash can punch? As a pledge I was warned to avoid that at all costs. It could be very strong-often made with Everclear, and then, you never knew what else might have been added in. I drank canned Cokes at socials to be safe.
Oh man, Everclear. I had forgotten that.
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Old 02-03-2018, 03:38 AM
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PhilTau, You didn't serve trash can punch? As a pledge I was warned to avoid that at all costs. It could be very strong-often made with Everclear, and then, you never knew what else might have been added in. I drank canned Cokes at socials to be safe.
Actually, we did. One fall semester, about a week into school, we threw a campus-wide Everclear trashcan Delaware punch party and charged $1 per cup. We made enough money from that one event to pay for our formals for the year. Our house was just off campus and everyone from the freshmen dorms showed up.

The next day, there was a 40 percent absentee rate in the freshman classes and the dean of students called our president into his office that afternoon. We were in definite trouble until our president showed him the temporary liquor license that we obtained from the state alcohol control commission prior to the party. He let us off, but told us to not do it again - and we didn't. Different times back then.
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