Yet to be Themed Re-recruitment Story

[shadokat]

I can guarantee you that NO PNM at DZ at Drexel had a rec. Not a one.

[KillarneyRose]

Originally Posted by shadokat

I can guarantee you that NO PNM at DZ at Drexel had a rec. Not a one.

Drexel is a small school pledge-class wise. If they got a bid, someone got a rec for them whether they know it or not.

[KDCat]

Originally Posted by KillarneyRose

Drexel is a small school pledge-class wise. If they got a bid, someone got a rec for them whether they know it or not.

I have been an alum who was working feverishly behind the scenes at a "no rec required" campus, back when KD required recs for every bid. The rushees/PNMs had no idea. Probably most of the chapter had no idea.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by KDCat

I have been an alum who was working feverishly behind the scenes at a "no rec required" campus, back when KD required recs for every bid. The rushees/PNMs had no idea. Probably most of the chapter had no idea.

This.

How many of y'all are former Rec Chairmen? Hands, please? I was while in school and saw how it works first hand. Honestly, I have to believe that many more sororities than mentioned have a no rec policy, it's just that they are obtained by the crew of alumnae primed for exactly this reason.

A wise man once said, "You gotta wanna." In Panhellenic-ese, that means, if you want a bid, you need to play the game. Period.

Again, best of luck with Recruitment. I do hope that you share your story.

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[shadokat]

Drexel PCs are about 50 women, with total at about 110, so I wouldn't call that small. That being said, their advisor says they don't have recs for people, except maybe a legacy form.

Originally Posted by KillarneyRose

Drexel is a small school pledge-class wise. If they got a bid, someone got a rec for them whether they know it or not.

[AOE-7]

Originally Posted by thetalady

... or by some poor woman frantically scribbling out recs for girls that she has never met in a back room, A REC WAS REQUIRED.

Because this totally makes sense.

Yes... I get it. You have your "national policy." I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry that your group has to jump through hoops and "some poor woman" has to "frantically scribbling out recs for girls that she has never met in a back room" in order to meet a requirement.

"Hmmm, let me read a piece of paper (resume) with some information about this girl. oh, yeah, she sounds like she's be a GREAT addition to our sisterhood, sure, I'll write this rec for her because it's a national requirement to do so..."

laaaaaaaaaaaaaaame. And who actually reads these fine pieces of paper and gives seal of approval for initiation? Are you telling me that someone actually goes through with a fine tooth comb during the new member time period and determines if someone's rec should be null and void and not allow that new member to initiate BASED ON THAT REC? Dumb. This policy is a waste of time and resources.

[Katmandu]

Originally Posted by AOE-7

Because this totally makes sense.

Yes... I get it. You have your "national policy." I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry that your group has to jump through hoops and "some poor woman" has to "frantically scribbling out recs for girls that she has never met in a back room" in order to meet a requirement.

"Hmmm, let me read a piece of paper (resume) with some information about this girl. oh, yeah, she sounds like she's be a GREAT addition to our sisterhood, sure, I'll write this rec for her because it's a national requirement to do so..."

laaaaaaaaaaaaaaame. And who actually reads these fine pieces of paper and gives seal of approval for initiation? Are you telling me that someone actually goes through with a fine tooth comb during the new member time period and determines if someone's rec should be null and void and not allow that new member to initiate BASED ON THAT REC? Dumb. This policy is a waste of time and resources.

So it is lame in your opinion, and a waste of time and resources in your opinion, but since it isn't your organization, then it's not your monkey; not your circus. Snarking on other Greek organizations' rules, traditions and regulations is bad form and makes for an ugly sandbox at playtime.

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by Katmandu

So it is lame in your opinion, and a waste of time and resources in your opinion, but since it isn't your organization, then it's not your monkey; not your circus. Snarking on other Greek organizations' rules, traditions and regulations is bad form and makes for an ugly sandbox at playtime.

Need this for my new signature. OK?

[Katmandu]

Originally Posted by AZTheta

Need this for my new signature. OK?

Lol, be my guest!

I love the fact that people say "I didn't have a rec" when they have absolutely no idea whether an alum signed a rec on them or not. Just because it's not from your personal direct knowledge, doesn't mean it didn't happen. And as for the thread hijacking, there is nothing for the OP to report yet. We will all be glad to hear from her when recruitment starts. And this discussion began because we ALL wish her well. We all want her to have a successful rush. We just (some of us) wish she would dot all her i's, rather than just some of them.

[jolene]

Originally Posted by Katmandu

Lol, be my guest!

I love the fact that people say "I didn't have a rec" when they have absolutely no idea whether an alum signed a rec on them or not. Just because it's not from your personal direct knowledge, doesn't mean it didn't happen. And as for the thread hijacking, there is nothing for the OP to report yet. We will all be glad to hear from her when recruitment starts. And this discussion began because we ALL wish her well. We all want her to have a successful rush. We just (some of us) wish she would dot all her i's, rather than just some of them.

If I had a rec, it is total news to me. I know AXiD doesn't require them nationally and the other sorority I rushed also offered me a bid. Like I said, I had no Greek connections so unless an active who liked me wrote the required document, I didn't have one. Can actives write recs? That policy seems like it would harm smaller Greek systems if a GLO can only take rec girls. As I said, I was totally clueless about sororities and wouldn't have even known how to get a rec even if I'd known about them.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by Katmandu

Lol, be my guest!

I love the fact that people say "I didn't have a rec" when they have absolutely no idea whether an alum signed a rec on them or not. Just because it's not from your personal direct knowledge, doesn't mean it didn't happen. And as for the thread hijacking, there is nothing for the OP to report yet. We will all be glad to hear from her when recruitment starts. And this discussion began because we ALL wish her well. We all want her to have a successful rush. We just (some of us) wish she would dot all her i's, rather than just some of them.

Like!

[chi-o_cat]

Originally Posted by Katmandu

I love the fact that people say "I didn't have a rec" when they have absolutely no idea whether an alum signed a rec on them or not. Just because it's not from your personal direct knowledge, doesn't mean it didn't happen. And as for the thread hijacking, there is nothing for the OP to report yet. We will all be glad to hear from her when recruitment starts. And this discussion began because we ALL wish her well. We all want her to have a successful rush. We just (some of us) wish she would dot all her i's, rather than just some of them.

I am 100% certain my rec (which was required by org policy) was of the “written in the back room by our alumna advisor on bid day” variety. I came from an area of the country where Greek life isn't a huge deal, went to college at a university where recs are not even mentioned, am from a family with not a lot of college/Greek experience, and a high school where everyone was college-bound, but Greek life wasn’t something people really talked about pursuing.



And to KC_96: I hope you’ll come back and finish your story. The spambots seem to be (somewhat) under control and we really would love to hear from you!

[AOE-7]

Originally Posted by Katmandu

So it is lame in your opinion, and a waste of time and resources in your opinion, but since it isn't your organization, then it's not your monkey; not your circus. Snarking on other Greek organizations' rules, traditions and regulations is bad form and makes for an ugly sandbox at playtime.

Okay, Sunshine, help understand why and how this is a good policy? Really. I want to know. For REALZ. How on EARTH does it make SENSE to force OMGQTFBBQ we absolutely gotta have a rec soooo, lets write some sh*t on a piece of paper about this girl in order to meet the 'national requirement' and call it a day.

Rainbow Unicorn sandbox or not, I am trying my damndest to understand how this is not, in a roundabout way, a 'forgery' or 'fake' or whatever else you want to call it.... because I don't know how on earth you can write a recommendation for somebody you don't frikkin' know. Reading their resume does not tell you a dang thing about their character or presentation, their people skills and if in fact they are a good fit for the chapter. Somebody could be spotless on paper and a piece of doo doo in person, and that poor frantic alumna writes a rec for her because she was "forced to" due to a bureaucratic policy.

Oh wait... I get it.... is rec writing part of ritual? Is that the "tradition" part of it that you speak of?

[Katmandu]

Well, Sunshine, I could answer you, but won't, because you are for REALZ, obnoxious.

[Sororitysock]

Originally Posted by AOE-7

Okay, Sunshine, help understand why and how this is a good policy? Really. I want to know. For REALZ. How on EARTH does it make SENSE to force OMGQTFBBQ we absolutely gotta have a rec soooo, lets write some sh*t on a piece of paper about this girl in order to meet the 'national requirement' and call it a day.

Rainbow Unicorn sandbox or not, I am trying my damndest to understand how this is not, in a roundabout way, a 'forgery' or 'fake' or whatever else you want to call it.... because I don't know how on earth you can write a recommendation for somebody you don't frikkin' know. Reading their resume does not tell you a dang thing about their character or presentation, their people skills and if in fact they are a good fit for the chapter. Somebody could be spotless on paper and a piece of doo doo in person, and that poor frantic alumna writes a rec for her because she was "forced to" due to a bureaucratic policy.

Oh wait... I get it.... is rec writing part of ritual? Is that the "tradition" part of it that you speak of?

Because policies and procedures like this have helped us build and sustain powerfully strong national and international organizations, many of them going on 150 years. Perhaps when your little young engineering sorority has this kind of strength and experience under its belt, you can share the policies that have gotten you there too.

See? It's not so difficult to be rude and dismissive about a very different organization that you don't know or understand now, is it?