Alabama Recruitment

[jolene]

Originally Posted by Griffins&Quills

I haven't seen the renderings , but that's exciting!

I so want to see those!! Yippee!

[magnoliacurious]

In the Crimson White student newspaper today, it was reported that every sorority took at least 120+7 upperclassmen new members this year. I think that Alpha Gamma Delta, Chi Omega, Kappa Delta, and Kappa Kappa Gamma are the only sororities where the new member class numbers haven't been reported here on greekchat yet. Maybe someone out there might have them and wouldn't mind sharing them here. Definitely looks like all Alabama sororities really have NM class sizes to be proud of!!

[Hartofsec]

I can't say that the exact number of PNMs in each pledge class has been a topic of much interest/conversation among various Bama alums that I know. Just about everyone comments on how HUGE these classes are, however.

A long time ago I remember some bid day alum chatter about who made quota and who didn't, but that was long before RFM, and long before recruitments of this size.

Almost every chapter at Bama makes primary quota every year, and even if one didn't, it would probably wind up with a NM equivalent to quota plus some.

At this point with such enormous recruitments, the numbers don't really tell us anything -- larger numbers are not indicative of more successful recruitments than smaller numbers, for instance. All the numbers tell us is that EVERY pledge class is huge, and with a 93% placement rate, all chapters' cups runneth over!

[magnoliacurious]

Originally Posted by Hartofsec

I can't say that the exact number of PNMs in each pledge class has been a topic of much interest/conversation among various Bama alums that I know. Just about everyone comments on how HUGE these classes are, however.

A long time ago I remember some bid day alum chatter about who made quota and who didn't, but that was long before RFM, and long before recruitments of this size.

Almost every chapter at Bama makes primary quota every year, and even if one didn't, it would probably wind up with a NM equivalent to quota plus some.

At this point with such enormous recruitments, the numbers don't really tell us anything -- larger numbers are not indicative of more successful recruitments than smaller numbers, for instance. All the numbers tell us is that EVERY pledge class is huge, and with a 93% placement rate, all chapters' cups runneth over!

That all makes perfect sense, the NM classes for each sorority are indeed ALL huge and when the sizes vary at most from just twenty something over a hundred to sixty something over a hundred with often very little difference (maybe a hair split) between so many sororities, why would many bother with the exact numbers for so many? In short, as you put it, all (sixteen) chapters' cups runneth over! It was really just a personal curiosity point of reference question I guess.

[Bamarox]

AGD 131
XO 126
KD 137
KKG 139

[magnoliacurious]

Originally Posted by Bamarox

AGD 131
XO 126
KD 137
KKG 139

Appreciate it a lot Bamarox, with the Delta Zeta numbers at 160 and the Tri Delta numbers at 130 all the chapter ones given now add up perfectly to 2261! Thanks so much again!!

[Bamarox]

And Yes, Tri Delta is 130

[DubaiSis]

Because every girl who attends a preference party and maximizes her options gets placed, even if it takes a chapter over quota.

[Loyally Kappa]

Originally Posted by DubaiSis

Because every girl who attends a preference party and maximizes her options gets placed, even if it takes a chapter over quota.

And thus the "everybody gets a trophy" concept conquers new ground ...

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by Loyally Kappa

And thus the "everybody gets a trophy" concept conquers new ground ...

Not really. If a woman is invited to pref, that means a chapter is willing to pledge her. They could have released her long before that if they didn't want her. There are only a very very very few schools where everyone is guaranteed a bid.

[Loyally Kappa]

Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Not really. If a woman is invited to pref, that means a chapter is willing to pledge her. They could have released her long before that if they didn't want her. There are only a very very very few schools where everyone is guaranteed a bid.

I know that ... but the joke just spilled off of my fingertips.

[DubaiSis]

The computer works so that it figures out if you have X number for quota and Y number for quota additions you will get Z number of total girls placed. It tries a variety of numbers to make sure the largest number of girls get placed while attempting to give every chapter quota. It is not consistent because each chapter has a different number of girls at their preference parties and the "leftover" girls will have attended different, inconsistent chapters. So if a chapter invited a lot of girls to preference they could theoretically end up with a lot more girls pledging. And then next year their numbers will probably be tighter so that it's more balanced out over time. This is how parity can happen over 2 or 3 years. Of course, at Alabama, none of the chapters are struggling so the numbers just blow up since girls don't drop out of rush when they don't get their first choice. Oh, if we could get the rest of the Greek world to work this way.

[DGTess]

In order for EVERY chapter to be over quota, when quota is (women at pref)/(# of chapters), then women are being bid who weren't at pref. That's just math.

[irishpipes]

There is quota range, and then there is quota. QR is calculated first, and Q is calculated somewhat after the fact. It isn't as cut and dried as the number at pref divided by the number of chapters.

[Hartofsec]

Originally Posted by DGTess

Please, someone, help this old brain out.

If quota is set by the number of women attending pref divided by the number of chapters, and quota is 120(+7), how is it all the chapters are showing numbers so far OVER quota? That should be mathematically impossible, shouldn't it?

That's what I thought you were asking -- I was also wondering why the quota was set at that number. Thanks to irishpipes for explaining.

As far as why the PNMs over quota are not distributed more evenly, this explanation involves RFM, how many pref parties a PNM attends, and quota additions. Bama had over 218 quota additions last year (64 the previous year) -- someone asked about this huge increase in quota additions earlier in the thread.

I wouldn't attempt the explanation about QAs in a huge recruitment like this -- or even a guess about the increase in quota additions last year -- better left to one of the RFM experts here.