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Old 01-19-2003, 09:18 PM
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JAM, thank god it was just a cat. When my old cat cried-I swear it sounded just like a baby!!!

Pam Kinamore's mother and sister were on The View a couple of days ago. Another good article I just had to post.
Today, I was passsing by the house of Gina Wilson Green and I see the Crime Scene truck outside! Gotta love the BR police for checking everything out so quickly. I mean, how long has it been since she was murdered? They say they are about to release some new info. but I don't know about all that.
Women's murders remain unsolved

By MELISSA MOORE
mmoore@theadvocate.com
Advocate staff writer
Related item:
Map of locations where bodies were found
There have been no televised briefings in the Gloria Stanford slaying investigation. No one organized a rally on behalf of Deborah Hunt. No task force was formed to hunt the killers of Priscilla Durden or Terry Jackson.

The killings of those four women and many others in the Baton Rouge area slipped out of the limelight almost as soon as they happened. About two dozen killings were overlooked even when the serial killer first focused attention this summer on the unsolved murders of women in and around Baton Rouge.

But detailed research and information provided by the Baton Rouge Police Department and the East Baton Rouge Parish Sheriff's Office now show that at least 63 killings of women in the greater Baton Rouge area in the past decade remain unsolved.

That's up sharply from the 37 area cases reported last summer. When the serial killer task force formed in August, Police Chief Pat Englade mentioned only 37 city cases.

City police and sheriff's officials say lab tests have not linked the serial killer's DNA to any of the other killings in which investigators have DNA evidence. They won't say which cases have DNA evidence.

So far DNA shows only that the same man killed three Baton Rouge women -- Gina Wilson Green in September 2001, Charlotte Murray Pace in May and Pam Kinamore in July -- and a Lafayette woman, Trineisha Dené Colomb, in late November. Colomb's body was found in Scott just west of Lafayette.

Family and friends of the serial killer's victims are holding a rally at 3 p.m. today on the steps of the State Capitol. University of New Orleans criminologist and professor Peter Scharf will be a guest speaker.

More than one killer?

Col. Mike Barnett, the sheriff's chief criminal deputy, said detectives have gone all the way back to the 1985 murder of LSU graduate student Melissa Montz in their search for the serial killer. Montz disappeared during a morning jog and her skeletal remains were found weeks later near the LSU golf course.

They have examined methods, victim traits and other details of the crimes that might suggest whether some were committed by a single killer.

"We have our opinions of what crimes are linked together," he said.

Without naming particular crimes, Barnett said he believes the Baton Rouge area has been a hunting ground for serial killers.

"I think we have had more than one," he said.

However, Barnett said it's dangerous to link cases not tied directly by scientific evidence. A bad link, he said, can jumble facts "that are just as likely to lead you in the wrong direction as to lead you in the right direction."

Barnett said the man who killed Green, Pace, Kinamore and Colomb left no "signature" or unique feature beyond his DNA that allows investigators to connect those cases or any others.

Green was strangled, Pace was stabbed repeatedly, Kinamore's throat was cut and Colomb was beaten to death. Green and Pace were killed in their homes; Kinamore was kidnapped and her body dumped at Whiskey Bay; and Colomb's body was dumped in the woods, 20 miles from where her car was abandoned in Acadiana.

The Baton Rouge victims were white and Colomb was black. They ranged in age from 22 to 44.

Barnett said he is concerned that the Baton Rouge area seems to have a higher rate of unsolved slayings of women than other cities of similar size.

"There are more whodunits here than there should be," he said.

Renewed interest

Some of the unsolved cases have come under the microscope again since the realization in July that a serial killer is preying on women in the area.

Hardee Schmidt, 52, disappeared while jogging in Pollard Estates off Perkins Road in 1999. Her body was dumped in St. James Parish. She had been strangled and the back of her skull was fractured.

That skull fracture was mentioned in documents filed in court by investigators to highlight similarities between Schmidt's death and that of Eugenie Boisfontaine. Boisfontaine, 34, appears to have been abducted from near University Lake in 1997; her body was found in Iberville Parish.

The victims and the crimes have notable similarities, but police have not said whether they believe the same man killed the two women.

Police had formed another task force in 2000 to investigate another grouping of unsolved killings. They would not say which murders were under the task force's umbrella, but acknowledged similarities in the killings of six black women in late 1999 and the first half of 2000. Four of them were strangled - Tannis Walker, Florida Edwards, Patricia Hawkins and Veronica Courtney. The other two, Shirley Mikell and Dianna Williams, were beaten to death, according to police records.

Lt. Mike Morris, the city police chief of detectives, said no DNA links those cases and that investigators were not able to identify the killer. However, those killings appear to have stopped, he said.

The murder of 21-year-old Geralyn DeSoto of Addis a year ago also has received more attention because of the latest serial killer investigation. Her aunt, Jackie Robert, believes DeSoto was a victim of the same man.

Robert said the similarities between the murders of DeSoto and Pace are remarkable: DeSoto registered for graduate school on the day she was killed, and Pace had just finished graduate school; both women were stabbed; and both had their telephones taken from their homes.

West Baton Rouge Parish Sheriff's Detective Charles Hotard said investigators are considering the possibility that DeSoto was a victim of the serial killer, but that they also are exploring other theories. The cases have their differences, he said.

Hotard said he is concerned that drawing a connection where none exists could lead investigators away from the real killer.

City police spokeswoman Cpl. Mary Ann Godawa said task force detectives have reviewed the DeSoto case and remain in contact with West Baton Rouge authorities on it.

The 1992 death of Zachary resident Connie Warner and the 1998 disappearance and presumed death of 28-year-old Randi Mebruer also have drawn speculation about their relationship to each other and to the serial killings.

Warner, 41, was apparently taken from her home in Oak Shadows Subdivision in Zachary, the same neighborhood where Mebruer later disappeared.

Zachary Sgt. Ray Day said his agency has been in touch with the Baton Rouge Area Homicide Task Force, but that there is no DNA in the Warner or Mebruer cases, so it's impossible to confirm any possible connections.

Zachary Police Lt. David McDavid, who has worked on the Warner case, said the key to solving it lies in a piece of information now held by someone other than the police or the killer.

"There's somebody who knows who did it," he said. "We'd like them to come forward."

Day said all new Zachary detectives are asked to review the Warner and Mebruer cases to see if they can find something others have missed.

"Nobody here is so bold that they can conclusively say, 'I've done all there is,' " he said.

Cold cases hard to crack

Forty-four of the unsolved killings of women in and around Baton Rouge in the past decade are city police cases.

Morris with city police said women are more likely than men to be killed out of public view and without witnesses -- such as in domestic attacks or during sex crimes -- making many murders of women hard to solve.

Men often are involved in public disputes that lead to violence, and killings in public are much more likely to be seen by others, he said.

"Even a drive-by, you're liable to have three witnesses," he said.

Morris said that earlier this year the Homicide Division started a project to review cases dating back to 1971 and rate them on how likely they are to be solved. That rating is based on availability of witnesses, suspects, relatives of the victim and the presence of forensic evidence.

City police Homicide Division Commander Lt. Keith Bauer reissues the cases with the highest solvability scores to new detectives. So far, he's distributed cases from 1995 to 2000, he said.

Morris said the serial killer investigation has consumed many of the resources he and Bauer had hoped to apply to the cold-case initiative. But, he said, "It's still one of our top goals."

Eleven of the unsolved killings are Sheriff's Office cases.

Barnett said the Sheriff's Office keeps murder cases under active investigation until the detective, his lieutenant and the chief of detectives all agree that every lead has been followed. Those cold cases are reviewed annually for new leads or possible connections to other crimes.

"Murder is the very highest priority here," he said.

The rest of the unsolved cases are under the jurisdictions of the sheriffs in Iberville, West Baton Rouge or St. Martin parishes or of Zachary police.

Among the Baton Rouge police cases are the killings of Gloria Stanford, Priscilla Durden and Terry Jackson.

Stanford, 45, and her boyfriend got a ride home from a bar about 2:30 a.m. six days before Christmas 1992. On North Foster Drive near Jackson Avenue, a shot was fired through the back window. It struck Stanford in the head and she died less than 24 hours later.

Durden, 29, was found dead from a gunshot wound in her upper body on Nov. 9, 2000, during a heavy rain. She was lying in the street at Weller Avenue and Mayan Street, off Plank Road near Mohican Street.

Jackson's decomposing body was found July 22, 1996, partially hidden on the roadside on North Acadian Thruway West. The 36-year-old woman had been strangled.

The Sheriff's Office has the killing of Deborah Hunt. Her family found the 30-year-old mother of five dead from a gunshot wound in her back in her home on Skysail Avenue near Gardere Lane on Aug. 7, 1995. She worked at a dry cleaner and had recently became engaged.
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Old 01-22-2003, 08:29 AM
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EXCUSES, EXCUSES!!!

I know women (some more than others) are not considered a high priority in this stinking network of good ol' boys, but this is deplorable!

Baton Rouge is NOT NYC and its NOT Miami!!! Who said if it was a male it would have been solved by now? I guess they had to throw in that little bit about WHY murders of women tend to be "harder" to solve!

Just keeping in mind the number of murders that DID go unsolved-swept under a rug and lost in statistics PRIOR to the task force makes me want to VOMIT!
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Old 01-23-2003, 12:31 AM
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Justamom- set your VCR- America's most wanted Saturday night! John Walsh (i love him) said that this killer is smart, but he has caught more intelligent ones. He said this one has just been lucky- I say maybe if our police asked for help instead of this task force. I swear sometimes I think they just sit around and throw darts at a board.

At 2:00 they are supposed to have some announcement or something.
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Old 01-23-2003, 06:18 PM
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I was driving down Stanford yesterday and saw the Crime Scene truck as well. Wierd, considering that the house looks lived in.
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Old 01-29-2003, 11:39 PM
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Mari Ann Fowler

Surveillance Tape Gives Investigators New Leads In Fowler Case
The FBI enhanced surveillance tape has given investigators new, promising leads into the kidnapping of Mari Ann Fowler.

Fowler has now been missing for 36 days. West Baton Rouge Sheriff's deputies waited for more than 2 weeks to get the surveillance tape back. Now their patience is paying off. The tape's footage shows a brief struggle between 65-year-old Fowler and her attacker. Most of the shots of Fowler's kidnapper are of the back of his head.

In order to protect the integrity of this case, that's all the information that can be released about the tape at this time. But West Baton Rouge Chief Deputy Mike Cazes says investigators are furiously checking out leads coming both from the tape and the FBI profiler studying the kidnapping.

Although this case is more than a month old, Cazes is confident it can still be cracked. "We're still following up on leads. It's very wide open right now, and we're going to continue investigating until we've exhausted all angles of the evidence," said Cazes.

Cazes says his office is still receiving tips from the public both at his office and through the serial killer hotline. The FBI is also still playing a major role in the quest to bring Fowler's kidnapper to justice. Their expert profiler could be making a follow trip to south Louisiana in the near future.

It's not clear yet if or when that footage will be made public. Investigators are being extremely cautious not to release anything that could jeopardize this investigation.
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Old 02-28-2003, 02:52 PM
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I hope that everyone has a happy and safe Mardi Gras!!

I got this email today.....> >
A message I received from a friend this morning........good advice!
> >
> > Hi friends and family. I know that with all the psychos out there, we
> > still think that something couldn't really happen to us, right? Wrong!
As
> > most of you know, I live in Alexandria, but I work in Lafayette where I
> > stay with friends when I'm there.
> >
> > As you know from America's Most Wanted TV program as well as the news
> > media, there is a serial killer in the Lafayette area. I just want to
let
> > you know about an "incident" that happened to me a few weeks ago that
> > could have been deadly.
> >
> > At first I didn't go to the police or anyone with it because I didn't
> > realize how serious this encounter was. But since I work in a jail and
I
> > told a few people about it, it wasn't long before I was paraded into
> > Internal Affairs to tell them my story.
> >
> > It was approximately 5:15 am in Opelousas, La. I had stayed with a
friend
> > there and I was on my way to work. I stopped at the Exxon/Blimpie
station
> > to get gas. I got $10 gas and a Diet Coke...I took into the store two
$5
> > bills and one $1 bill. (just enough to get my stuff)
> >
> > As I pulled away from the store, a man approached my truck from the
back
> > side of the store (an unlit area). He was an "approachable-looking" man
> > (clean cut, clean shaven, dressed well, etc.) He walked up to my window
> > and knocked. Since I'm very paranoid and "always looking for the rapist
> or
> > killer", I didn't open the window....I just asked what he wanted. He
> > raised a $5 bill to my window and said "You dropped this."
> > Since I knew I had gone into the store with a certain amount of
> money....I
> > knew I didn't drop it. When I told him it wasn't mine......he began
> > hitting the window and door and screaming at me to open my door and
that
> I
> > had dropped the money! At that point, I drove away as fast as I could.
> >
> > After talking to the Internal Affairs department and describing the man
I
> > saw and the way he escalated from calm and polite to angry and
> > volatile....it was determined that I could have possibly encountered
the
> > serial killer myself. At this point, it is unclear as to how he gains
> > access to his victims since there has been no evidence of forced entry
> > into homes, etc. And the fact that he has been attacking in the daytime
> > when women are less likely to have their guard up...and what gesture is
> > nicer than returning money to someone that dropped it????? How many
times
> > would you have opened your window (or door) to get your money and say
> > thank you....because if the person is kind enough to return something
to
> > you...then he can't really be a threat.... can he????
> >
> > Please be cautious! This might not have been the serial killer...it
> > probably wasn't...but anyone that gets that angry over someone not
> > accepting money from them, can't have honorable intentions.
> >
> > Forward this to everyone you know....maybe they can be as fortunate as
I
> > was!
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Old 02-28-2003, 04:34 PM
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That sounds like one of the many urban legends floating around about the serial killer, but its still good advice.
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Old 03-05-2003, 06:38 PM
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I agree juniorgrrl, about the whole urban legend thing. It seems everyone and their mother have had an encounter with the killer.
A missing person report.I hope it is just a mistake or something...
http://www.wafb.com/Global/story.asp?S=1164932
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Old 03-06-2003, 01:36 AM
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just bumping this up...
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Old 03-06-2003, 06:43 AM
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Gotta love that there's a new missing woman in the city. And she happens to live right around the corner from me. That makes me feel oh so comfortable. Something just tells me that she's not going to be found alive. Y'all stay safe and stay aware.
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Old 03-13-2003, 11:28 PM
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I can't take this anymore....I can't even imagine what these people are going through.
March 13, 2003
Body Of White Female Discovered Near Whiskey Bay Bridge

Authorities say they have found the body of a young white female near the Whiskey Bay Bridge. Authorities got the call Thursday afternoon from a fisherman who discovered the nude body floating face down in the water.

You'll remember this is the same place that 44-year-old Pam Kinamore's body was found by DOTD workers nearly eight months ago. DNA tests would later confirm Kinamore as the third victim of the serial killer, now linked to the murders of four South Louisiana women.

Iberville Parish Sheriff's Department has set up a command post, blocking off access to the Whiskey Bay exit off of Interstate-10. Also present on the scene are members of the Serial Killer Task Force, Baton Rouge Chief of Police Pat Englade, and East Baton Rouge Coroner Louis Cataldie.

As of now no positive identification has been made on the body. However, an official source close to the investigation tells 9 News, "This is who we were looking for."

The body is now in the possession of East Baton Rouge Coroner Louis Cataldie. The next phase in the investigation is to do an autopsy and extensive forensics testing to officially identify the body, and determine the exact cause of death. Dr. Cataldie also says that depending on the condition of the body, there is a very good chance that DNA could be extracted and used for evidence. He says the fact the body was submerged in water could have helped preserve any DNA that may have been left by the killer.

Two Baton Rouge women remain missing at this time. The most recent of the two is LSU grad student Carrie Lynn Yoder, reported missing on Wednesday March 5th, after she was last seen on Monday March 3rd. Also missing is Mary Ann Fowler, wife of former elections commissioner Jerry Fowler, who was abducted outside a Port Allen sandwich shop on Christmas Eve.
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Old 03-14-2003, 01:56 AM
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OK...I really don't appreciate how WAFB was announcing earlier today that "This is who we were looking for." OK...everything is pointing to this person being Carrie Yoder but nothing has been confirmed up until this point. I find it very insensitive and rude for the reporters to be going off something they just heard that isn't official. I feel sorry for Carrie's family to have to find out about their daughter that way if it really is her. I have half a mind to write WAFB and express my distaste at the way they covered all of this.
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Old 03-14-2003, 09:55 AM
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You'll remember this is the same place that 44-year-old Pam Kinamore's body was found by DOTD workers nearly eight months ago.

I'm not sure what I think about this...Wouldn't it be convenient for
someone to "copy cat" a location to pass off suspicion?

How close was the boyfriend/girlfriend connection? Two days without talking to someone you are in a relationship with seems slightly unusual. Of course, there could be any number of reasons.

Did any of you read this article that suggest a possible link to Winn Dixie? http://theadvocate.com/ns-search/sto...-doc-offset=2&

A particular coincidence bothers her, too: police have said that Yoder shopped at the Winn-Dixie supermarket on Burbank Drive about two hours before her disappearance. Pace said that according to her daughter's bank statement, she also patronized the store either the day of her death or a day before.

This is so frightening...
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Old 03-18-2003, 07:38 AM
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Another young woman is missing...

My daughter called last night. Her sorority sister has a friend living in the Brightside Apts. This friend's roommate has not been seen for a few days, and no one can seem to locate her. My daughter said it should be coming out in the media very soon if they don't locate her, but they don't want to start any rumors
until they have exhausted all possibilities.

Brightside is in the same general area as Miss Yoder. Yoder lived one block from my daughter.

OUR editor finally wrote an editorial (due to our strong Baton Rouge and LSU ties) calling on the national media-task force-government-LSU school AND students...indeed, they were calling on EVERYONE...to put pressure on the law enforcement agencies to get help! The numbers stand at 65 unsolved murders spanning a little over two decades.

IF this is related, the time between murders seems a lot shorter than usual. Is his "drive" escalating? Is he seeking attention?
I am to te point (as are other Moms around here) where I want to search for this demon myself. This is an instance where you want the young women to uderstand they can NEVER, EVER be too careful...
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Old 03-18-2003, 10:49 AM
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JAM, do they not have any leads? What about DNA? I keep praying for this animal to be caught. I know he will be, but how many more women have to be hurt?
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