A Controversial Shirt

ZetaPhi708.20 · #1 03-20-2015, 07:56 AM

This was posted yesterday to the twitter page of the Zeta-Phi Zeta Chapter of Lambda Chi Alpha Fraternity at the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga:

https://twitter.com/LambdaChiUTC/sta...81493091573760

Sen's Revenge · #2 03-20-2015, 08:35 AM

What did the original shirts say/look like?

AZTheta · #3 03-20-2015, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sen's Revenge

What did the original shirts say/look like?

Here's a link.

"The shirt in question includes the phrase "history repeats itself" and a picture of a cotton plant."

Lovely.

PS Now let's have a repeat of the "this is offensive/no it's not" debate. No, let's NOT. As Andrew Jackson said "sometimes one man with courage is a majority."

ETA: what's next? Yellow Star of David? Swastika? I'm absolutely sickened. Sen, there are links at the bottom of the story I linked to that show the shirt and Lambda Chi's response.

knight_shadow · #4 03-20-2015, 10:30 AM

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In a statement, the fraternity's president said "It was a misunderstanding. It was a popular clothing brand we pulled off the internet and we had no intent to offend anyone."

http://www.newschannel9.com/news/top...ts-15854.shtml

AZTheta · #5 03-20-2015, 11:42 AM

Well if they pulled the shirt off the clothing brand's site, there's a little thing called copyright infringement, for starters.

I used to fight all the time with collegiates who didn't see the harm in lifting (for example) the Tiffany font, colors, etc, for their t-shirts. Stealing someone's brand is not smart.

I'm not going to make it to the end of Lent. I've passed annoyance, I'm into fury.

Nanners52674 · #6 03-20-2015, 02:17 PM

I'm not finding the logo on the brand website.

SWTXBelle · #7 03-20-2015, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AZTheta

Here's a link.

"The shirt in question includes the phrase "history repeats itself" and a picture of a cotton plant."

Lovely.

PS Now let's have a repeat of the "this is offensive/no it's not" debate. No, let's NOT. As Andrew Jackson said "sometimes one man with courage is a majority."

ETA: what's next? Yellow Star of David? Swastika? I'm absolutely sickened. Sen, there are links at the bottom of the story I linked to that show the shirt and Lambda Chi's response.

The difference between this and what I assume is the debate you are referencing is that there is no way a reasonable person would not find this offensive, given the direct and obvious correlation to be drawn between the phrase and the picture.

1964Alum · #8 03-20-2015, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

The difference between this and what I assume is the debate you are referencing is that there is no way a reasonable person would not find this offensive, given the direct and obvious correlation to be drawn between the phrase and the picture.

Of course. How many shades of stupid can you be?!!!!

AZTheta · #9 03-20-2015, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

The difference between this and what I assume is the debate you are referencing is that there is no way a reasonable person would not find this offensive, given the direct and obvious correlation to be drawn between the phrase and the picture.

I will take a step back, because I have reflected on what you said. Thank you for your input.

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Originally Posted by 1964Alum

Of course. How many shades of stupid can you be?!!!!

Excuse me? Did you mean this to sound as rude as it does? I mean, honestly, it comes across to me as being really sarcastic and a put down. I hope I am mistaken.

ETA: maybe you didn't mean Belle was stupid, I must really apologize if that was what you meant. Allergy medication = fuzzy thinking.

ETA: I'm happy that I was wrong in my interpretation. See below!

1964Alum · #10 03-20-2015, 05:04 PM

Oh, no. So sorry for the confusion. What I meant was how stupid could these young men be to think that the offensive shirt would be taken any other way.

Allergies here for me as well!

ZetaPhi708.20 · #11 03-20-2015, 07:39 PM

Here's a UTC Mocs News report on the t-shirt.

https://youtu.be/VK8MxmBQK-4

As most of you know, yes, I am an alum from that same chapter but I do not serve on any of the advisory boards for the chapter but am a former Alumni Control Board member for another chapter. I had to go on hiatus in helping that other chapter after the passing of my father last year.

I had no qualms this morning posting the link to the initial press release but I thank the researchers in finding further information from our local media. As I was getting ready for work this morning, I only had time to make that first post.