IU PNM Numbers

[Low D Flat]

Good call -- OSU and Miami are more like IU.

[IndianaSigKap]

Originally Posted by Low D Flat

Good call -- OSU and Miami are more like IU.

No, they aren't. Both OSU and U of Miami (OH) have campus totals. If you don't have a good working knowledge of how IU recruitment operates, you cannot compare it to other schools.

Sorry for the double post, folks. I just saw the quoted comment and couldn't let it go.

[Benzgirl]

Originally Posted by IndianaSigKap

No, they aren't. Both OSU and U of Miami (OH) have campus totals. If you don't have a good working knowledge of how IU recruitment operates, you cannot compare it to other schools.

Sorry for the double post, folks. I just saw the quoted comment and couldn't let it go.

To clarify, tOSU used to have an oddball system but in no way was it ever like IU nor did it ever have a bed total. No matter how many girls went through, total would be 100 and quota would be 25.

About 5 years ago, things changed and they are using RFM. Each semester, PHA sets a total and any chapter below total can COR. After Formal last spring, total was 157 (quota was in the mid 50s). I think fall total was 132 and only a handful of chapters participated in COR. Gamma Phi, who colonized last year, took total + 14 seniors. PHA allowed them to take the extra 14 since they wouldn't have
received bids.

Right now, about 1500 girls have signed up and it's very possible that total will be 180-185 after recruitment.

BTW...thank you for the insult Low D Flat.

[KSUViolet06]

It's deferred, but I don't believe Miami OH functions without RFM/quota.

[IndianaSigKap]

IU is the only school in the country that operates with no campus total for chapters and where quota is set by each chapter not by the number of PNMs attending preference/signing MRABAs. Although I hear rumblings that some changes may be in the works for the following year.

[KSUViolet06]

^^^Which means that folks who aren't Greek and don't actually know what they're talking about should think before they post!

[TSteven]

Do each of the chapters "turn in" an official quota number to the CPC prior to, or sometime during, recruitment?

[IndianaSigKap]

Originally Posted by TSteven

Do each of the chapters "turn in" an official quota number to the CPC prior to, or sometime during, recruitment?

Yes, there is a date by which all chapters must turn in their individual chapter quota to Panhellenic. It is usually in the late fall.

[Low D Flat]

Look back at post #42. I asked:

Are there any other big deferred recruitments at schools that are NOT academic elites? Maybe SMU or Maryland, but they are still a lot more selective than IU.

Others pointed out that OSU and Miami fall into this category of big deferred recruitments at non-elite schools, which makes them like IU in the limited sense that I explicitly asked about. My post #47 was agreeing with the suggestion that OSU and Miami share those qualities with IU. I didn't say they were like IU in every way.

^^Which means that folks who aren't Greek and don't actually know what they're talking about should think before they post!

Maybe folks who haven't read the previous page of the thread should look at the context of a statement before jumping to conclusions.

[IndianaSigKap]

Originally Posted by Low D Flat

Look back at post #42. I asked:



Others pointed out that OSU and Miami fall into this category of big deferred recruitments at non-elite schools, which makes them like IU in the limited sense that I explicitly asked about. My post #47 was agreeing with the suggestion that OSU and Miami share those qualities with IU. I didn't say they were like IU in every way.



Maybe folks who haven't read the previous page of the thread should look at the context of a statement before jumping to conclusions.

Well, since I graduated not once but twice from a non-elite school in the Big Ten that explains why I can't be bothered to read a post from the previous page.

On another note, why does everyone have the impression that IU is so freakin' easy to get into? As someone who helps students apply for colleges, it is in the top half of the Big Ten as far as admissions standards. There are quite a few schools in the Big Ten which are much easier to get into than IU and don't have some of the top business and music schools in the country. And the Big Ten is known as an academic conference. So being in the top half of it, sounds pretty good.

[als463]

Originally Posted by IndianaSigKap

Well, since I graduated not once but twice from a non-elite school in the Big Ten that explains why I can't be bothered to read a post from the previous page.

On another note, why does everyone have the impression that IU is so freakin' easy to get into? As someone who helps students apply for colleges, it is in the top half of the Big Ten as far as admissions standards. There are quite a few schools in the Big Ten which are much easier to get into than IU and don't have some of the top business and music schools in the country. And the Big Ten is known as an academic conference. So being in the top half of it, sounds pretty good.

For the record, I would never think IU is an easy school to get into. I don't feel that way about any of the Big Ten schools. Did I miss something because, who calls IU non-elite? Nevermind, I saw LFD do it. Last time I checked, IU was rated by Greene's Guide as a public ivy. Just ignore people who say otherwise. Low Flat D, for someone who isn't Greek, you sure have found a way to come on GC and offend those of us who have graduated from schools in the Big Ten and those of us who actually ARE Greek. Please refrain from giving your opinion about something you nothing. I'm just thankful I never had to go through recruitment at IU because I don't know if I would have made it.

[hooosier]

So the numbers weren't as bad as I expected but I'm still nervous for rush. Apparently there are 1965 before grade cuts. (sadly my best friend is one of those that didn't make the GPA). A girl in one of my classes that's in a chapter said that all of the chapters are required to take PCs of at least 50 girls which would make a min of 1,100 spots. Is there any truth to this?

[33girl]

Originally Posted by hooosier

So the numbers weren't as bad as I expected but I'm still nervous for rush. Apparently there are 1965 before grade cuts. (sadly my best friend is one of those that didn't make the GPA). A girl in one of my classes that's in a chapter said that all of the chapters are required to take PCs of at least 50 girls which would make a min of 1,100 spots. Is there any truth to this?

A chapter cannot be "required" (I assume you mean by the school) to take a pledge class of a specific size, or for that matter, a pledge class at all. It goes directly against freedom of association laws.

[IndianaSigKap]

Originally Posted by hooosier

So the numbers weren't as bad as I expected but I'm still nervous for rush. Apparently there are 1965 before grade cuts. (sadly my best friend is one of those that didn't make the GPA). A girl in one of my classes that's in a chapter said that all of the chapters are required to take PCs of at least 50 girls which would make a min of 1,100 spots. Is there any truth to this?

Hoosier, congratulations! You completed the first hurdle--grades. Sorry to hear about your friend. It may be difficult for her to see the other girls wearing their new letters after bid day. Hopefully, she has strong network of friends.

As 33 stated above Panhellenic cannot "require" anything unless it has been proposed, discussed, voted on and passed by a majority of the chapters. However, I did hear via the alumnae grapevine that chapters were encouraged to offer at least 50 bids. Some chapters did agree to this, and some did not. I have heard first hand that there are at least two chapters who will not be offering bids to 50 women. However, there are chapters who will bid more than 50 for various reasons. Don't worry so much about the numbers, concentrate more on where you feel comfortable and where YOU fit in. Make your own decisions.

While you're in the chapter houses, look around at the girls who are not recruiting. Are they engaged with the sisters they are standing next to? Are they sitting alone or with a group? Do the chapter women know enough about their chapter to direct you to a member with your same major or from you area? These are little things that can illustrate how close a chapter may or may not be.

Best wishes to you Hoosier. There are 22 great chapters at IU, you can't go wrong.

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by Low D Flat

Look back at post #42. I asked:

Others pointed out that OSU and Miami fall into this category of big deferred recruitments at non-elite schools, which makes them like IU in the limited sense that I explicitly asked about. My post #47 was agreeing with the suggestion that OSU and Miami share those qualities with IU. I didn't say they were like IU in every way.

Maybe folks who haven't read the previous page of the thread should look at the context of a statement before jumping to conclusions.

No "maybe" here: you really need to stay out of Indiana recruitment threads. You are not helpful. Please restrain yourself and post on something where you can share your brilliancy with the rest of us dullards.

Remember, you can be right - or you can be happy. Your persistence is not to your advantage. In other words, cut your losses.