Going back to college for another degree and rushing a fraternity, advice?

[Signed up user]

Originally Posted by Kevin

I congratulate you on your decision. It seems that any of the issues there might be with age are pretty obvious, so I don't assume you'll need any special help there.

It just depends on where you're going and what house. Everyplace is different. I've seen a house (in recent years) give a bid to a Vietnam Vet who was going back to school. The guy went through formal recruitment sporting his veteran regalia.

Just go through the process, be yourself and whatever other platitudes... and yeah, some of the posters here are pretty bad about always assuming the worst about people and needing to air those assumptions, but responding in kind isn't going to gain you any ground.

My prediction is you'll find a house and have a great experience. Best of luck.

Thank you. It is something I've done research about and wanted to do ever since I was 20 but being a senior in college back then I was too late to the party. I have done independent research on it but wanted to get a more involved with discussions on it.

[DrPhil]

Was that a Biological Clock Thread Flounce? GC regulars can't BCTF.

[amIblue?]

To flounce or not to flounce, that is the question.

[Signed up user]

I trust that most fraternity guys are somewhat sane and can objectively see what is going on here. Plus what would a 20 year old clemson student who claims to be in a sorority be doing trying to get into arguments online? That does not add up. Most will see it as her being a bottom barrel girl in her sorority that others don't look that highly upon and is taking her frustrations out on an internet forum. If she was given advice that would be one thing but to go out of her way to insult a guy on a forum section for fraternities, yes that is fraternities not sororities, does not make much sense.

I posted the thread asking for advice which some members did give but some female members in particular who are likely frustrated with their lives decided to attack me and I called them out on it.

That being said, I am grateful for this eye opening experience. Sorority girls are not the top reason for me to rush a fraternity, as I said I want to belong to a brotherhood of guys that love to party and get wasted (you don't find those after college). I don't know on what planet 26 is old, most men hit their prime around the age of 30, but given that a sorority girl way past her prime is too frustrated with her terrible life to come up with a creative insult she is likely to use "oldass" where it doesn't apply.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Signed up user

I trust that most fraternity guys are somewhat sane and can objectively see what is going on here. Plus what would a 20 year old clemson student who claims to be in a sorority be doing trying to get into arguments online? That does not add up. Most will see it as her being a bottom barrel girl in her sorority that others don't look that highly upon and is taking her frustrations out on an internet forum. If she was given advice that would be one thing but to go out of her way to insult a guy on a forum section for fraternities, yes that is fraternities not sororities, does not make much sense.

I posted the thread asking for advice which some members did give but some female members in particular who are likely frustrated with their lives decided to attack me and I called them out on it.

That being said, I am grateful for this eye opening experience. Sorority girls are not the top reason for me to rush a fraternity, as I said I want to belong to a brotherhood of guys that love to party and get wasted (you don't find those after college). I don't know on what planet 26 is old, most men hit their prime around the age of 30, but given that a sorority girl way past her prime is too frustrated with her terrible life to come up with a creative insult she is likely to use "oldass" where it doesn't apply.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Signed up user

I trust that most fraternity guys are somewhat sane and can objectively see what is going on here. Plus what would a 20 year old clemson student who claims to be in a sorority be doing trying to get into arguments online? That does not add up. Most will see it as her being a bottom barrel girl in her sorority that others don't look that highly upon and is taking her frustrations out on an internet forum. If she was given advice that would be one thing but to go out of her way to insult a guy on a forum section for fraternities, yes that is fraternities not sororities, does not make much sense.

If you think you've taken the high road in this thread, you are mistaken. Objectively reading this thread, you're coming across like an immature, class-A prick.

And so you know, almost everybody posts in almost all the forums on GreekChat. Females post in fraternity-related forums and males post in sorority-related forums all the time. Unless a forum or thread is marked members only, anyone can post in it.

Sorority girls are not the top reason for me to rush a fraternity, as I said I want to belong to a brotherhood of guys that love to party and get wasted (you don't find those after college).

None of the regulars here are are so naive that we aren't aware that many (too many) guys want to join fraternities for this reason. But in the know-your-audience category, I think it's safe to say that most of the regular posters here believe that this is a very shallow reason for wanting to join a fraternity (or sorority) and his little to do with true brotherhood. Coming from an 18-year-old, it's an understandable motive that will hopefully give way to a much better understanding of what fraternity membership and brotherhood are all about. Coming from a 26-year-old, it sounds like a rather sad avoidance of growing up.

[irishpipes]

See, not misogynistic at all.

[elicampbell]

^^^^^^
This!

Thank you MysticCat for your post. I agree with your post. I could post more, however I feel that it would be a moot point.

To the OP good luck in your quest for fraternity membership. Come back and tell us what chapter you joined.

[johansla]

"Plus what would a 20 year old clemson student who claims to be in a sorority be doing trying to get into arguments online? That does not add up."
WOW. Maybe it's my Jersey upbringing but don't expect her sisters not to be extremely offended by that statement and defend her to the end against a man-child in AZ who's got a major Peter Pan complex. Seek a psychiatrist, not a bid.
I also highly recommend you stop watching Animal House and the like--it's really warped your idea of what appropriate behavior is of a fraternity man, and you seem to be falling all too easily into the misogynistic, over-aggressive trap.

[Signed up user]

Originally Posted by johansla

"Plus what would a 20 year old clemson student who claims to be in a sorority be doing trying to get into arguments online? That does not add up."
WOW. Maybe it's my Jersey upbringing but don't expect her sisters not to be extremely offended by that statement and defend her to the end against a man-child in AZ who's got a major Peter Pan complex. Seek a psychiatrist, not a bid.
I also highly recommend you stop watching Animal House and the like--it's really warped your idea of what appropriate behavior is of a fraternity man, and you seem to be falling all too easily into the misogynistic, over-aggressive trap.

Don't flatter yourself.

[Signed up user]

Now to accurately summarize:

- OP posts thread about being 26 years old and going back to college
- Wonders if he can join a frat
- Says he has enjoyed some of the things men in fraternity stereotypically enjoy but would love to be a part of a brotherhood with like minded guys (alcohol, drinking, partying, and debauchery)
- Female members (who are most likely past their prime) attempt to play the role of and talk OP out of it
- OP remains civil and tries to reason with them
- Female members attack OP and continue to play mom
- OP decides to argue
- Few members do come in and give good advice
- You are here

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Signed up user

Now to accurately summarize:

- OP posts thread about being 26 years old and going back to college
- Wonders if he can join a frat
- Says he has enjoyed some of the things men in fraternity stereotypically enjoy but would love to be a part of a brotherhood with like minded guys (alcohol, drinking, partying, and debauchery)
- Female members (who are most likely past their prime) attempt to play the role of and talk OP out of it
- OP remains civil and tries to reason with them
- Female members attack OP and continue to play mom
- OP decides to argue
- Few members do come in and give good advice
- You are here

Also uncalled for. There's no need to stoop to their level.

[Signed up user]

I do believe age is more of a mindset when you are in your 20s. As I said I presented my situation and all that has been done is people trying to actively discourage me from joining a fraternity rather than:

1. Telling me how those exceptions that happen happen
2. What I will need to do to make myself a good candidate

With that said, I am going to stick to the other point I have made in this thread, what goes on in the mind of a woman well past her prime. The spoiled girl that was in a sorority and in her first 2 years of college and felt like a princess but then hit the real world and saw just how cruel it can be. Then you have a guy like me who never in his life had a fair chance at a social life and had fight for every ounce of respect he had coming into his own and trying to be a part of a brotherhood. What happens?

That's right, the girl who has hit reality hit her in the face and is facing the fear of the biological clock calls him old when ironically she is well past her prime. Advising? I would love to talk to an adviser who calls someone "oldass" rather than giving them advice which centers around how to be the exception. You girls are not advisers, you are monsters that have been hit by reality and wake up daily seeing their biological clock tick while some of the people you looked down upon in your college days (likely those not in your greek crowd) managed to make something of themselves.

With that said, I am finding this to be entertaining too. I did not expect that someone asking for advice on how to join a fraternity at 26 would be attacked this severely when he objectively tried to remain civil in the start of the thread. As to the girls still in college, please keep up that attitude and call your boss "oldass", see where that gets you in life. Not only will you be well past your prime in looks, you will have nothing to offer a high quality guy.

And thanks, now I know what kind of girls I can potentially be dealing with when I run into sororities.

[johansla]

Oh yeah I'm so so worried about having "nothing to offer a high quality guy". Gosh I'm just gonna cry in the corner with my honors thesis and 3.3 GPA and all my sisters and guy friends about how I'm gonna die alone.
Spare us the drama, sir--you're an amateur playing amongst professionals.

[Signed up user]

Originally Posted by johansla

Oh yeah I'm so so worried about having "nothing to offer a high quality guy". Gosh I'm just gonna cry in the corner with my honors thesis and 3.3 GPA and all my sisters and guy friends about how I'm gonna die alone.
Spare us the drama, sir--you're an amateur playing amongst professionals.

LOL you better be a STEM student or else that is nothing to brag about.