Schools that need to open for NPC expansion

[DeltaBetaBaby]

At Illinois, going back as far as my recruitment in the 90's, the big houses were a liability, because they brought a two-year live-in requirement with them at a time when campus apartments were booming. Who wants to live in a quad room with no A/C that your boyfriend isn't allowed to visit and fight over the six parking spots behind the house when you could live in a luxury apartment for a comparable cost?

But then again, Illinois is a far cry from the SEC.

[PinkSkyAtNight]

I don't think it is just the alums who want to hold onto the tradition, there are plenty of girls who arrive on campus who think living in a big amazing mansion is going to be like something they see in the movies. Little do they know that they might be crammed into a tiny room (not the one they showed you on house tours day), it might have little daylight, and there will plenty of nights you get no sleep because someone is making lots of noise. The romance of all this wears off after a year... and after two years of being required to live in, you can hardly stand it.

But despite this, young women still want those big beautiful mansions. Campuses where you are only required/allowed to live in one year, have the best situation: You can have a taste of it, but you can also get the chance to live in an awesome apartment with a pool, your other greek friends, and you get to have guys in your room. When a campus has a requirement that people live-in for three years in their sororities, my advice would be to pick a different campus.

I totally see the appeal of a dorm-style apartment, but when you are 18 and you see those amazing pictures of greek houses, that is far more tempting. For many young women, these sororities have living spaces furnished as nice or nicer than their parents homes. We need to remember that many young women picked these campuses because of the appeal of that actual sorority houses... chances are they aren't thinking about the condition of the plumbing, AC or what it is like to be in a cold dorm.

[ComradesTrue]

Can someone who has been in Waco more recently than I have tell us if their Panhellenic Building has space for additional sororities or just the current 8 chapters? Pledge classes in the 90s is ridiculous for that school.

For those not familiar with Baylor, they have an on campus Panhellenic building that contains private chapter rooms/suites designated for each group. Baylor owns the building but the groups decorate their own space how they see fit. There are no live-ins. If they add new chapters there would have to be something to accommodate these groups that is of equal comparison. Baylor is not the type of school where "different" would fly with the PNMs.

[ARKTTKA]

Comrades,

Looks like they have 9, so one is available as it was previously KD's.

http://www.baylor.edu/stacyriddleforum/

[Griffins&Quills]

So with only 9 suites available, what happens when they add another group, and then need to expand again?

[ARKTTKA]

As ComradesTrue mentions, Baylor is very traditional (I attended 2 years in the 80s). I would assume if more than 1 group came on they would use the SUB or dorms like they used to for recruitment and chapter meetings before expanding. Sounds like their chapter sizes are closing in on Ole Miss and Arkansas territory.

If memory serves me, BU had chapters of KD, Sigma Kappa and DG at one time. I wonder if any are planning to recolonize?

[33girl]

Is there any way they could build onto this building? I was hoping for a picture of it but didn't see one. Is there room near it to allow that?

Also, do they have anything resembling unofficial sorority houses off campus where sisters can live together? Or is this the sort of campus where you live on campus all 4 years? This whole concept of lodges at big Greek schools fascinates me.

[txpacer]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Is there any way they could build onto this building? I was hoping for a picture of it but didn't see one. Is there room near it to allow that?

Also, do they have anything resembling unofficial sorority houses off campus where sisters can live together? Or is this the sort of campus where you live on campus all 4 years? This whole concept of lodges at big Greek schools fascinates me.

Stacy Riddle was built with expansion in mind. I don't know if the plan was to build up or out, but I remember people saying that if we expanded, rooms would be created.

http://www.baylor.edu/mediacommunica...ory&story=4495

On the second comment, several sororities and fraternities (usually owned by an older alum or a current student's parents) have informal houses or blocks of houses where members decide to live together. I don't know how many of them house large numbers of members, but I'd wager the answer is not many. I lived in a house of four, and knew plenty of others in similar houses.

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by ARKTTKA

As ComradesTrue mentions, Baylor is very traditional (I attended 2 years in the 80s). I would assume if more than 1 group came on they would use the SUB or dorms like they used to for recruitment and chapter meetings before expanding. Sounds like their chapter sizes are closing in on Ole Miss and Arkansas territory.

If memory serves me, BU had chapters of KD, Sigma Kappa and DG at one time. I wonder if any are planning to recolonize?

All they can do is wait for BU to decide to expand. At that time, they can submit packets for consideration which will be voted on by Panhellenic. Sometimes colleges will agree that a former chapter will have a first right of refusal, although in my personal experience, they will also often not honour their initial agreement. Not that I'm bitter . . .

I would also be VERY surprised if Sigma Kappa wanted on again this soon.

[irishpipes]

Baylor quota was 78+6 optional juniors.

[ComradesTrue]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

Baylor quota was 78+6 optional juniors.

Ok good to know. I had just seen the initial two results which were both in the 90s and assumed that was approx quota. Still, 78+6 (juniors? not sophomores? interesting..) is huge for a relatively small campus of <14K undergrads.

[irishpipes]

Originally Posted by ComradesTrue

Ok good to know. I had just seen the initial two results which were both in the 90s and assumed that was approx quota. Still, 78+6 (juniors? not sophomores? interesting..) is huge for a relatively small campus of <14K undergrads.

Oh I totally agree. I wasn't being argumentative, just adding the missing data.

[Griffins&Quills]

SK at Baylor closed in 1994. Is 20 years considered soon for that campus? Just curious.

[clemsongirl]

Originally Posted by Griffins&Quills

SK at Baylor closed in 1994. Is 20 years considered soon for that campus? Just curious.

I think SWTXbelle might have been thinking of Kappa Delta, which closed there in 2010.

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by clemsongirl

I think SWTXbelle might have been thinking of Kappa Delta, which closed there in 2010.

Yep. Thanks for the correction.