Ellen Page reveals she is a lesbian

[DrPhil]

I have never seen Juno in its entirety. So many things annoy me about that movie.

[tuco99]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

Yeah, that one seemed weird to me. I tried to think of someone famous with a similar name and came up with nothing.

Hal Holbrook is flaming. He is one step away from being Liberace.

According to the gay-o-meter, Holbrook is 78% gay.

http://gay-or-straight.com/Hal%20Holbrook

[tuco99]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Technically, "hooking up" doesn't reveal sexual orientation just as someone can be married to someone of a different sex and gender and still be homosexual.

Unless they are married to Dixie Carter.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by tuco99

Hal Holbrook is flaming. He is one step away from being Liberace.

According to the gay-o-meter, Holbrook is 78% gay.

http://gay-or-straight.com/Hal%20Holbrook

If you say so.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I don't know the sexual orientation of the GCers in this thread, but along the lines of what Jen said:

Heterocentrism allows heterosexuals to nonchalantly say "I don't care...people need to stop announcing" OR "they need to just 'come out of the closet'...hurry up."

Power groups like heterosexuals always feel the need to weigh-in and "give permission" as though homosexuals are waiting for heterosexuals' seal of approval.

In response to ASTAlumna06's post: Arguably, normal everyday people make an "announcement" every time we use gendered language when talking about dating/relationships and when we do things like go out in public with people we date. That doesn't automatically equate to our sexual orientation(s) but it gives people an idea even if we are being dishonest and not forthcoming. I've told this story before on GC but I've had people get uncomfortable, annoyed, and even angry at me because I didn't announce the gender of my Significant Other (I usually use language like "Significant Other" and "Partner"). There are people who obviously breathed a sigh of relief (and told me they now feel more comfortable) when they met my Significant Other and realize it is a biological-male and gender-man. I wanted to cuss these homophobic people out but these are typically semi-professional environments. Darn.

1. I think more people should keeping out. On their own terms, of course. Sigh, there's no way to support without being part of the majority and sounding like I'm "giving permission."

2. I always wondered why people used "my partner" when they are straight. I always jump to them being gay/lesbian but I suppose it can be used to mean "long term boyfriend/girlfriend that's not my spouse or fiance." I'd feel silly talking about someone that important in my life as a boyfriend/girlfriend of 3+ years (arbitrary timeframe, yours may vary).

I was in conversation with a woman and man this weekend (around my age, maybe younger) who referred to their men as their partners: the woman has a long-term boyfriend in an LDR, the man has a husband (and child). My company's former CEO referred to his wife as his partner for years - I was relatively new to the company when I realized partner = she. I was floored because I assumed "he" because... well, he was giving me gay wholetime. Meh.

Originally Posted by Dionysus

She kept her fingernails short.

*rimshot*

I legit didnt know that was a thing. So as a woman who keeps her nails short AND has played volleyball and softball, among other things, you see how this could concern me.

Backstory: In HS health class, the grooming and hygiene section noted that "good hygiene" included, among other things, daily bathing and keeping trimmed, neat nails. I had this HUGE complex about being kempt (wait, that's not a word?) because I was overweight, so... duh. short, manicured nails = clean = attractive = win. Right?

and THEN, after high school I went through a no-polish phase. So there I was all through college and most of my 20s with short, clear-polish-at-best nails.

[DrPhil]

(If in an environment where using the person's name would be pointless because people would ask "who is that") I typically use "significant other" or "life partner" because:

1. I find it interesting how people (including me sometimes) are obsessed with announcing the title and status of relationships. God forbid you be legally married, for example, and not announce that you have a "spouse" or more gendered and sexual orientation language like "wife" and "husband." I always pick on my friends who stop using their Partner's name and now always say "my spouse" "my husband" "my wife." It is especially funny when I know the Partner and therefore know the Partner's name quite well. The Partner loses a name and also the relationship has to be announced as a legal union in an "I's married now" format. I eventually want to say "okay...we get it...you're not just 'any kind of relationship'...you're married now...cool."

2. I try to reduce my use of gendered and heterocentric language that people use to overtly and covertly announce and reaffirm sexual orientation; and people use to make ourselves and other people comfortable.

3. I also believe that "boyfriend/girlfriend" expires after a certain age just as being a "girl" or a "boy" expires.

Carrie Bradshaw: He's my boyfriend.
Mr. Big: Aren't I a little old to be introduced as your boyfriend?
Carrie Bradshaw: Point taken. From now on you'll be my man-friend.
Mr. Big: That sounds like a dog.
Carrie Bradshaw: Well if the shoe fits.

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by tld221

I legit didnt know that was a thing. So as a woman who keeps her nails short AND has played volleyball and softball, among other things, you see how this could concern me.

Backstory: In HS health class, the grooming and hygiene section noted that "good hygiene" included, among other things, daily bathing and keeping trimmed, neat nails. I had this HUGE complex about being kempt (wait, that's not a word?) because I was overweight, so... duh. short, manicured nails = clean = attractive = win. Right?

and THEN, after high school I went through a no-polish phase. So there I was all through college and most of my 20s with short, clear-polish-at-best nails.

I was joking about Ellen Page, I'm not that familiar with the actress. But yeah, it could be a sign. It isn't a reliable sign alone, of course. Many non-lesbian women have short nails for the reasons you mentioned...however, most lesbians have short nails. Let's just say, having long nails can make lesbian sex unpleasant, if you know what I mean.