RFM Specialists - Page 2

TSteven · #1 07-20-2013, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Every chapter has its own invite number based on previous recruiting strength.

The reason there is a flex plus/flex minus is that the lists for rounds prior to the final bid list do NOT need to be in order, so ranking everyone would indeed take additional time, depending on your MS procedure. For example, if you were allowed to extend 100 invitations, plus/minus 10, and you had 20 legacies, and your group mandates a courtesy invite for legacies, it would be a complete waste of time to try to put the legacies in order.

Thanks. This makes sense as well.

As a numbers geek, I usually understand why or how these things work. It is the "why" behind the numbers that I may not always fully grasp.

KSUViolet06 · #2 07-20-2013, 03:22 PM

^^^^Flex minus = extra peeps to drop in the event that you are OVERPERFORMING.

Think of your flex plus list as "extra padding" in the event that you are UNDERPERFORMING your past recruitment history/ Peeps you'd want to ADD in the event that you need more peeps.

Sidenote: If you've ever worked with a chapter who had never used flex plus before, it's OH LAWD JESUS IT'S A FAHR when you explain it to them because all they hear is "extra people you need to add" and interpret it as "PNMs we don't really want whom HQ is forcing us to add." Then they don't add flex plus and have the sad face when they have dismal returns or don't match Q.

This reasonably well educated post is sponsored by our lovely RFM specialist who has spent more late nights on the phone with me putting out RFM fires than I care to remember. lol.

IndianaSigKap · #3 07-20-2013, 03:40 PM

I understand how the lists work, but I still don't get why so many lists are truly needed if all of the PNMs are ranked in order.

For the sake of the example, lets say ABC has 120 PNMs left for the next round. They are told they can invite 50% back. If they order the list 1 through 120, then the invite list is 60 women. If they are doing well and can't invite that many, the computer just does not issue invitations to the last few women on the list. If they are doing not so well and can invite 60% back, then the computer would just issue invitations to PMNs 61-72. That's their flex plus list, but it's all on one list.

1-60 invite
48-60 flex minus
60-120 flex plus

It just sounds more complicated that it needs to be. If there was one ranked list, the computer can do it's thing based on the release figures for each chapter.

ForeverRoses · #4 07-20-2013, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by IndianaSigKap

I understand how the lists work, but I still don't get why so many lists are truly needed if all of the PNMs are ranked in order.

For the sake of the example, lets say ABC has 120 PNMs left for the next round. They are told they can invite 50% back. If they order the list 1 through 120, then the invite list is 60 women. If they are doing well and can't invite that many, the computer just does not issue invitations to the last few women on the list. If they are doing not so well and can invite 60% back, then the computer would just issue invitations to PMNs 61-72. That's their flex plus list, but it's all on one list.

1-60 invite
48-60 flex minus
60-120 flex plus

It just sounds more complicated that it needs to be. If there was one ranked list, the computer can do it's thing based on the release figures for each chapter.

That is pretty much how it has worked in the past- the "flex lists" are the the bottom xxx of the main list- when you put everything in the system it tells you when you are on your flex lists.

If memory serves, if you are asked for a negative flex list, you must use it, but you don't have to use the flex on list (or all of the flex on list). Not sure why you wouldn't, but you don't have to...

TSteven · #5 07-20-2013, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by IndianaSigKap

Wouldn't excel be able to do this relatively quickly? Use different columns for GPA, daily score, rec/no rec, etc. and have excel tally the scores and rank by that tally column.

That makes sense.

DubaiSis · #6 07-20-2013, 03:47 PM

Well technically, your flex plus list would probably end at 100 (or whatev) because there would be some girls who you've decided you really don't want. But other than that, I think what you're saying sounds accurate.

KSUViolet06 · #7 07-20-2013, 04:08 PM

It's all done in ICS. Don't ask me how, as I haven't ever been the one to do the input. lol.

IndianaSigKap · #8 07-20-2013, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

It's all done in ICS! No need for all that.

I figured there had to be some way that was quick and easy.

AZ-AlphaXi · #9 07-20-2013, 04:16 PM

A reason for not providing a flex add list is when a weak recruiting chapter doesn't have any additional women they want to invite. In other words, their carry figure is so high as to be every (or nearly every) PNM in the system and there are just some PNMs that a chapter does not want to invite back ... such as grades that don't make the mandatory chapter cutoff.

An add flex list is optional as a chapter cannot be required to invite PNMs that they have determined will not be extended a bid.

KSUViolet06 · #10 07-20-2013, 05:48 PM

I have a neat little RFM PPT for those interested (can email if you send me PMs with your addresses.) Just have to double check that it's JUST RFM and doesn't mention our MS at all.

dukedg · #11 07-21-2013, 09:36 AM

Doing the entry into ICS is not fun and the flex lists are the worst part, so I thank goodness we don't have to rank everyone.

MaryPoppins · #12 07-21-2013, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by dukedg

Doing the entry into ICS is not fun and the flex lists are the worst part, so I thank goodness we don't have to rank everyone.

If one was able to maintain the list in an Excel spreadsheet, surely there's a way to to upload it into ICS? You might have to start with a download from ICS, and then add attributes necessary to each PNM to make the spreadsheet useful to the Chapter.

***Note I am not a Recruitment Advisor, and do not pretend to be one, it's just that I was a manager of a very large and complex computer database before I started lawyering.

Titchou · #13 07-21-2013, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MaryPoppins

If one was able to maintain the list in an Excel spreadsheet, surely there's a way to to upload it into ICS? You might have to start with a download from ICS, and then add attributes necessary to each PNM to make the spreadsheet useful to the Chapter.

***Note I am not a Recruitment Advisor, and do not pretend to be one, it's just that I was a manager of a very large and complex computer database before I started lawyering.

Congrats on your 1000th post!

dukedg · #14 07-21-2013, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MaryPoppins

If one was able to maintain the list in an Excel spreadsheet, surely there's a way to to upload it into ICS? You might have to start with a download from ICS, and then add attributes necessary to each PNM to make the spreadsheet useful to the Chapter.

***Note I am not a Recruitment Advisor, and do not pretend to be one, it's just that I was a manager of a very large and complex computer database before I started lawyering.

If anyone knows how to do this, please share! I've been using ICS for years now and I don't know if there is a way to get in the back and load a data file. It's much more of a click-and-point sort of application

MaryPoppins · #15 07-25-2013, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dukedg

If anyone knows how to do this, please share! I've been using ICS for years now and I don't know if there is a way to get in the back and load a data file. It's much more of a click-and-point sort of application

Dukedg, the answers you seek may begin here: http://www.gmr-manager.com/home.php AND http://www.gmr-manager.com/help/home...tUploadService