Online Universities

[LouisaMay]

Definitely choose a reputable campus-based university that has online programs. As others have been saying, many colleges and universities are developing online programs. I teach for a small, private college, and most of the online classes are taught by the same professors as the on-campus sections.

[Kevin]

Slightly off subject, but wouldn't it fix a lot of problems with for-profit schools if they had to underwrite their own student loans or at least find some private entity to do so on their behalf? I have a big problem with these things leaching off of federally backed, non bankruptable loans.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Slightly off subject, but wouldn't it fix a lot of problems with for-profit schools if they had to underwrite their own student loans or at least find some private entity to do so on their behalf? I have a big problem with these things leaching off of federally backed, non bankruptable loans.

Yes, it would. But I'm guessing some sort of law would have to be passed that doesn't exist at the present. One more instance (sort of) where legality hasn't caught up with technology.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Slightly off subject, but wouldn't it fix a lot of problems with for-profit schools if they had to underwrite their own student loans or at least find some private entity to do so on their behalf? I have a big problem with these things leaching off of federally backed, non bankruptable loans.

Agreed.

[*winter*]

There is an effort to pass laws to protect GI Bill recipients. Once you burn through your GI Bill, that's all you get. One year at a school like that will do it...That's the thing... In this Economy most will only get one chance to go to college, so if it's wasted on dropping out of an expensive school, that person may never get the chance to go back...

Basically they want them in the door, cash the check and then if they fail out, it's on them. The support is nothing like what is available on a traditional campus.

These schools can receive up to 90% of their funding from the government- grants and loans. So, basically, the government is subsidizing them and they are for-profit organizations pocketing millions.

[NinjaPoodle]

I found this while searching for graduation rates, by the way, my schools rate is 29.2%



The table below shows the overall rank of the top 10 online schools.
http://www.guidetoonlineschools.com/...ges/for-profit

[Kevin]

Wow.

[NinjaPoodle]

Yup. AAU is suing to get reinstated, saying that number is old. #Goodluckwiththat.

[Kevin]

I'm glad California is doing something about that. Those numbers are just hideous. I'd like to see these guys hit with an enormous class action or something. This just ain't right.

[NinjaPoodle]

I agree that it's not right. The sad thing is, these schools do serve a population that may not be right for the traditional Old College U. The idea was good but the execution sucks.

Oh, and that Cal Grants document is 4 pages long.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by NinjaPoodle

I agree that it's not right. The sad thing is, these schools do serve a population that may not be right for the traditional Old College U. The idea was good but the execution sucks.

Oh, and that Cal Grants document is 4 pages long.

Does California not have community colleges serving those populations?

[NinjaPoodle]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Does California not have community colleges serving those populations?

We do but the CC's are full. Source wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Califor...ystem#Students
from wiki:

The California Community Colleges System (CCCS) consists of 112 community colleges in 72 community college districts in the U.S. state of California. Created by legislation in 1967, it is the largest system of higher education in the world, serving more than 2.4 million students with a wide variety of educational and career goals.


I also attend City College of San Francisco which serves over 90,000 students annually on 9 campuses through out San Francisco. A LOT of people go to cc's for a semester or two then drop out to: join the work force, military, have kids etc. The school (CCSF) has a transfer program and all kinds of resources but for some people, just getting past jr. college can be an issue money wise.
If you're interested, you can probably find more info on the California Community Colleges website http://californiacommunitycolleges.cccco.edu/

[Kevin]

Wow. I looked at your tuition rates. Incredible. No wonder California is hemorrhaging money. Maybe y'all should consider some tuition hikes so that your institutions could keep up with demand? You have to wonder whether the system is working as intended when you're sending deserving students into the arms of for-profits.

[NinjaPoodle]

Problemo. Cost of living here is incredibly high. A lot of people can't even afford the CC rates. I can barely afford it myself. I'm working for 3 temp agencies and recently finished a seasonal position. If it weren't for the fact that I live with family, I'd be homeless. Curious: which tuition rates did you look at?

[Kevin]

Community College of San Francisco. Something like $23 per credit hour.

In Okieland, it's $79 and I thought that was really inexpensive. It's at least $100 cheaper than in-state tuition at a public university.