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12-14-2012, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by adpimiz
I wish they would quit interviewing these children. They are traumatized and don't need to be discussing the situation with reporters.
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On that topic, a question comes to mind.
I've got news streaming in the background and I've heard some interviews of parents. The interviewers always ask how their child is holding up and they've all said, "oh they're doing really well, so brave, etc. etc."
I know nothing about child psychology/early childhood development but at that age are kids really processing this kind of information that quickly? I worry that there has been damage done that will not surface immediately.
That is not to criticize the parents at all--they themselves are trying to process. But I'm just wondering if it will take some time to have an effect on these kids?
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I think it actually goes the other way...often children are a LOT more resilient than we give them credit for.
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True - children can sense when something is wrong. They may not know the nuances but they get it. But please, PLEASE let these children and teachers receive the counseling they need to process this.
OAN... I really dislike the coverage about the shooter. I won't go into details but... it really rubs me the wrong way.
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12-15-2012, 12:08 AM
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Do tell, tld.
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12-15-2012, 12:20 AM
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This really hits close to home, both as an educator and as a former resident of Fairfield county.The principal who was killed, Dawn Hochsprung,was also my little's assistant principal in high school. It's horrifying what people can be capable of...
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12-15-2012, 08:31 AM
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It really, really breaks my heart to think of how these parents have probably bought presents, etc and now their children won't be coming home for the holidays.
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12-15-2012, 09:51 AM
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Sad that I work with a girl named Sandy Hooks. I googled the name and found others. Feel bad for them!
At least there isn't too many people with the name of "Columbine" and "9/11".
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12-15-2012, 10:10 AM
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Why would do non-military people. need a high powered weapon that soldiers in Afghanistan use? Is Bambi really that threatening?
I am not asking about the "right"; I want to know the justification.
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12-15-2012, 10:23 AM
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Why would do non-military people. need a high powered weapon that soldiers in Afghanistan use? Is Bambi really that threatening?
I am not asking about the "right"; I want to know the justification.
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In this particular case, the majority of the killings were by a couple of handguns, not high powered rifles. It's a fundamental question of freedom here. Should there perhaps be some burden on gun owners to prove they are safe rather than a presumption that they are? Sure.
Should all guns be registered to their owners and owners be strictly liable for the damage their guns do? That'd be something to consider.
You can't take guns away from ordinary law abiding citizens though. Those of you on the East or West coast might not really understand what things are like in 'flyover country,' but out here many of us are basically responsible for our own security. If we call 911, a sheriff might be a couple of hours away or otherwise occupied. Having one of those high powered rifles could mean life or death.
And in more urban areas? Is contacting law enforcement going to do me any good when someone has kicked in my back door and is invading my home?
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12-15-2012, 10:25 AM
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Why would do non-military people. need a high powered weapon that soldiers in Afghanistan use? Is Bambi really that threatening?
I am not asking about the "right"; I want to know the justification.
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Short answer, no discussion from me.
It's not a question of "need". It's a creator-given right, to own a hunting rifle.
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12-15-2012, 11:24 AM
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Short answer, no discussion from me.
It's not a question of "need". It's a creator-given right, to own a hunting rifle.
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Seriously?
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12-15-2012, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by DGTess
Short answer, no discussion from me.
It's not a question of "need". It's a creator-given right, to own a hunting rifle.
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Wow. Couldn't agree less.
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12-15-2012, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DGTess
Short answer, no discussion from me.
It's not a question of "need". It's a creator-given right, to own a hunting rifle.
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http://www.theonion.com/articles/god...kill-rule,222/
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12-15-2012, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by DGTess
Short answer, no discussion from me.
It's not a question of "need". It's a creator-given right, to own a hunting rifle.
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Whaaa? Where in the Bible does it say, "Thou shalt have a Baikal MR221?"
Look, I don't want to see guns banned, either. There's a reason we have a Second Amendment, and it's obvious that the Founding Fathers felt it important to include that in the Bill of Rights. I grew up around hunting, and I'm not afraid of guns. My nephew is 12 and has a hunting rifle, as well as a bow and arrow. He knows how to use them and he respects what they can do.
I just think what you said is not only incorrect, but a little overly emotional.
An attempt to ban guns would fail miserably. What would they do, seize all guns? Go through people's houses, conducting random firearm searches? (THAT would violate the Bill of Rights.) Not all firearms are registered, either. People inherit firearms from family members all the time.
If someone wants to have a gun, they're going to have a gun--regardless of whether or not it's illegal.* A member of my extended family was shot and killed earlier this year--by a 16 YEAR OLD IN A BOTCHED ROBBERY. This wasn't the inner city, and it wasn't a small town. I'm pretty sure gun banning wouldn't have prevented my relative's death. I'm pretty sure gun banning wouldn't have prevented what happened in CT, either. For the gunman, firearms were readily available--but he could have gotten them anywhere.
(*This clearly applies to many things, ranging from drugs to Kinder Surprises.)
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12-15-2012, 11:37 AM
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My friend had surgery and doing physically well. Thank you for the prayers. Please keep them coming for the families of those who lost loved ones. This will take a long time to recover from; it seems everyone I know, knows at least one or two of the victims. It's a small town, and everyone knows everyone. This corner of CT is "small" in that way.
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12-15-2012, 03:45 PM
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Glad to hear this!
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Originally Posted by ree-Xi
My friend is out of surgery and doing physically well. Thank you for the prayers. Please keep them coming for the families of those who lost loved ones. This will take a long time to recover from; it seems everyone I know, knows at least one or two of the victims. It's a small town, and everyone knows everyone. This corner of CT is "small" in that way.
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So glad to hear that your friend is out of surgery and is physically doing well. I will continue to offer positive thoughts and prayers for all of those affected in this horrible tragedy.
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12-15-2012, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DGTess
Short answer, no discussion from me.
It's not a question of "need". It's a creator-given right, to own a hunting rifle.
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I'm really not one to jump on the gun-banning bandwagon.
First part of the short answer, I think it's a knee-jerk, overly-simplistic "solution" to a complex problem that won't really solve anything. Rest of the short answer: The NRA/gun rights lobby is equally guilty of knee-jerk, overly-simplistic defensiveness that doesn't solve anything.
As for the bolded, I truly respect your right to your opinion, and I will defend your right to state that opinion. I have a right to state my opinion as well, and my opinion is one of strong disagreement with the suggestion that it is creator-given right to own a hunting rifle.
It is a creator-given right to have the food we need. If that hunting rifle is necessary for food, then I might concede the point. But that is rarely the case, at least in this country. Recreation on the terms we like is not a creator-given right.
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OAN... I really dislike the coverage about the shooter. I won't go into details but... it really rubs me the wrong way.
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Me too. It does more than rub me the wrong way.
ree-Xi, glad your friend is doing okay.
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