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Old 08-13-2012, 12:07 PM
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I tend to think that for this reason, things will blow up in her face without somebody actively dropping a dime on her. Word will get out eventually to these people.
If OP goes and does something about this is will blow up in OP's face. Best to let this come out on it's own as it will inevitably happen when the time is right.
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Old 08-13-2012, 12:12 PM
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Best to let this come out on it's own as it will inevitably happen when the time is right.
I could easily see her getting busted, say, at a staff function of some sort when some clueless person on the interview panel introduces her to an NPHC-er: "Myrna is a member of both XYZ and ABC! Isn't that just lovely?" WOMP WOMP.
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Old 08-13-2012, 12:05 PM
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I wish that NPC groups didn't do such a poor job of keeping members engaged after college.
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Old 08-13-2012, 12:15 PM
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I wish that NPC groups didn't do such a poor job of keeping members engaged after college.
There are two ways to look at this (and I definitely agree with you).

There's the thought that NPC orgs suck as alumnae engagement. Having now supervised/mentored a member of an NPC organization, I do find it startling how few opportunities there are for her to use her sorority as a method of professional and personal advancement outside of college.

On the other hand, the women's fraternal movement/NPC specifically has always had organizations that (prior to desegregation and such - white) women were able to join, such as Junior League, OES, and whatever else is out there of a civic, service, and social nature.

Meanwhile, African American families have only far more recently (past century) had similar outlets available to them, and that outlet itself has been the NPHC sororities and fraternities.

So what do I mean by that in 2012? I mean that NPC women "graduate" to other organizations, if they feel so inclined, while NPHC women "graduate" to alumnae chapters of their own organizations.

There is also a very real cachet which comes with being in an NPHC sorority, in the form of community respect and such.

That said, NPC organizations probably need to to compare their alumnae experience to that of the Junior League and whatever else it is that women are joining in the mainstream in order to keep women engaged.

(I have said, similarly, that Alpha Phi Omega needs to look at the Kiwanis, Jaycees, and other civic/service organizations to measure itself against.)

Sorry for rambling... I just wanted to say I agree with you and provide some observations.
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Old 08-13-2012, 12:21 PM
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That said, NPC organizations probably need to to compare their alumnae experience to that of the Junior League and whatever else it is that women are joining in the mainstream in order to keep women engaged.
NPC organizations are moving that way, but all of the generations of members already lost to JL et cetera are unlikely to come back. We'll have to rely on efforts to capture the current, future, and recent generations.
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Old 08-13-2012, 12:27 PM
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NPC organizations are moving that way, but all of the generations of members already lost to JL et cetera are unlikely to come back. We'll have to rely on efforts to capture the current, future, and recent generations.
I'm hopeful for that day and feel similarly about Alpha Phi Omega.
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Old 08-13-2012, 12:31 PM
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I'd leave it alone.
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Old 08-13-2012, 12:31 PM
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I think it will cause a whole lot more damage to the school and its Greek life if it's allowed to blow up in public like it eventually will.

This woman obtained this position in part by using the fact that she knowingly broke the rules as a selling point.

Anonymous calls to both organizations may quietly resolve this without a complete public meltdown that will harm the overall system at the school.

Will people assume it was you? Of course. But she has mentioned it to enough people where there will always be doubt.
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Old 08-13-2012, 12:35 PM
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OP has a lot more to lose than one would expect. As a person who has had to bear the truth when no one wanted to hear it, I can tell you they always shoot the messenger.
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Old 08-13-2012, 01:00 PM
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Wait, wait, wait. I saw, in this thread, Dr. Phil speaking to the policy of DST, and someone else posted a policy for an NPHC group that may or may not have been DST. I didn't see how we got from there to "all NPHC groups have a rule against accepting NPC members." Is that indeed the case?
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Old 08-13-2012, 01:02 PM
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Wait, wait, wait. I saw, in this thread, Dr. Phil speaking to the policy of DST, and someone else posted a policy for an NPHC group that may or may not have been DST. I didn't see how we got from there to "all NPHC groups have a rule against accepting NPC members." Is that indeed the case?
I don't think we ever got there. NPHC is not a governing body as I understand it and therefore would not be able to promulgate or enforce such rules even if it wanted to.
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Old 08-13-2012, 01:08 PM
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Thank you all for your responses.

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Old 08-13-2012, 02:31 PM
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Your responses make me think that maybe it's between her and her NPHC organization. She did say that the chapter she went through contacted NPHC HQ beforehand and that HQ said there was nothing in writing to prevent her pursuing membership. I can't help but wonder...would it have been better had she just not mentioned it during her interview? She was not boasting dual membership, as someone on here put it. She was basically letting the panel know about her greek experience. She clearly told me that she does not claim NPC sorority because that was in her past. She is aware how it looks, which is why she does not mention NPC sorority ever - only NPHC sorority membership. I don't believe she broke an actual written rule... I think she knew what she did...but the NPHC sorority took her in knowing.
I call bullshit. If it is really this straightforward, what is your problem? Why did you come to GC with this?
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:42 PM
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I call bullshit. If it is really this straightforward, what is your problem? Why did you come to GC with this?
Because she's in the midst of a moral dilemma that affects people within a segment of the greek system (NPHC) that she's not personally familiar with and knows there are people here who can assist her. She already stated she doesn't feel like she talk to people in IRL.
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Old 08-13-2012, 02:51 PM
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Because she's in the midst of a moral dilemma that affects people within a segment of the greek system (NPHC) that she's not personally familiar with and knows there are people here who can assist her. She already stated she doesn't feel like she talk to people in IRL.
This is obvious.

If the OP believes what that person stated about the willingness of the NPHC sorority, there is nothing else to say. If the OP doesn't believe and calls bullshit (which is unclear based on the wording of that post), I recommend contacting the NPHC sorority.
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