Other gender Advisors/Honorary?

[Titchou]

And another resolution:

Statement of Position Regarding Little Sister Groups

The North-American Interfraternity Conference believes sororities and women's fraternities offer excellent opportunities for women to share a fraternal experience and that auxiliary women's groups organized by some men's fraternity chapters, commonly referred to as "little sisters," are inconsistent with the concept and philosophy of separate and equal women's fraternities. The Conference joins the Fraternity Executives Association and several member fraternities in strongly discouraging "little sister" groups as inappropriate adjuncts to the collegiate chapters of men's fraternities. One of the Standards of the NIC calls for member fraternities to work with their chapters to eliminate these programs.

[AOII Angel]

Still says they have the RIGHT to be single gender not that they must be single gender.

ETA: Vito should know since several Psi U chapters are co-ed, Kappa Alpha Society had co-Ed chapters until 2003 and Delta Psi also has co-ed chapters.

[Titchou]

The issue was whether having members of more than one gender would impact their Title IX rights. It does. So if they don't care about that, then fine. But NPC groups do care about that. NPC does not want to be required to have male members - hence TWO Unanimous Agreements addressing that question. And one has to invoke a "right" in order to maintain that membership requirement. Hence, NIC's resolution wording. Perhaps there are a few that don't care about Title IX issues but NIC would prefer that their membership maintain single sex status - like NPC and NPHC.

[knight_shadow]

^^ You're reading it with your NPC glasses. NIC doesn't regulate its members the way NPC does. It's more "We stand behind you all because each of you do things to protect your Title IX status" rather than "You better not let women in or else you're out!"

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

^^ You're reading it with your NPC glasses. NIC doesn't regulate its members the way NPC does. It's more "We stand behind you all because each of you do things to protect your Title IX status" rather than "You better not let women in or else you're out!"

That's exactly how I'm reading it. It doesn't sound anything like a unanimous agreement a la NPC. Just bc you can find a phrase from the NIC containing the words Title IX and rights doesn't mean that they are enforcing an agreement or a ban. Shoot, the NPC doesn't regulate EVERYTHING we do either...we do have some autonomy.

[naraht]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

^^ You're reading it with your NPC glasses. NIC doesn't regulate its members the way NPC does. It's more "We stand behind you all because each of you do things to protect your Title IX status" rather than "You better not let women in or else you're out!"

Replace
"NIC doesn't regulate its members the way NPC does"
with
"The United States Military doesn't regulate its members the way NPC does".


IMO, IFC rush on a campus wouldn't be changed all *that* much if there chapters of NIC fraternities that allowed women.
OTOH, *HOW* much would rush change at an SEC school if one or two of the NPC sororities allowed men as members? The mind *boggles*.

[Titchou]

Originally Posted by naraht

OTOH, *HOW* much would rush change at an SEC school if one or two of the NPC sororities allowed men as members? The mind *boggles*.

OMG!

[33girl]

One of our chapters had a male advisor for many years. I think he was a Beta Theta Pi alumnus.

We can recognize males for contributions to the sorority (as a sweetheart, or as an advisor) and have ways of doing so, but they cannot receive honorary membership. And no, no boys at initiation (regardless of age of boy).

As for your original question...it was the 60s.

[AGDLynn]

Do academic advisors count?

I know that the West Georgia Chi Omegas have had the same male academic advisor for years.

The AGD chapter had a male academic advisor for a very short time but unfortunately he died (can't remember how).

[ASTalumna06]

Alpha Sigma Tau may have non-member/male advisors, including the chapter advisor. One of the more well-known male advisors among ASTs is David Stollman (of CAMPUSSPEAK, and member of Sigma Phi Epsilon), who is the advisor for our chapter at NYU.

As far as I know, this isn't a common occurrence, but it is possible.

They may not, however, participate in any kind of ritual.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by ASTalumna06

As far as I know, this isn't a common occurrence, but it is possible.

Interesting. The only AST chapter I am familiar with had a male chapter adviser. He was a alumnus of Sigma Pi.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by 33girl

One of our chapters had a male advisor for many years. I think he was a Beta Theta Pi alumnus.

We can recognize males for contributions to the sorority (as a sweetheart, or as an advisor) and have ways of doing so, but they cannot receive honorary membership. And no, no boys at initiation (regardless of age of boy).

As for your original question...it was the 60s.

Beta Kappa also had a male advisor. He was Kappa Alpha, and I think our Financial advisor.