The Murder of Trayvon Martin

[I2K Beta Mu]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Let's try this again.

1. NO, Trayvon did not deserve to die because of his outfit.

2. YES, Geraldo was an idiot for saying that the outfit resulted in his death.

BUT

1. Taking Trayvon out of the picture, we all know that if you dress a certain way, people will perceive you a certain way.

If k_s walks past you on the street at night with a business suit and a briefcase, you will probably react differently than if k_s walked past you on the street in Timbs, a beater, and XXXL pants that are sagging. Does this mean that one k_s is better than the other? No, but it does mean that one k_s will be PERCEIVED a different way.

2. Geraldo is a media personality. He doesn't make money if nobody cares about what he has to say. To all the people who say "HOW DARE HE!? WHO DOES HE THINK HE IS!?" -- it's giving him headlines. It's making him relevant again.

Geraldo is a journalist and his job is to talk about the story. He's voicing his opinion and saying shit he doesn't need to.

With the other part of your post, you can walk down the street with whatever, but does that give me the right to follow you, chase you as you're trying to get away, shoot you, and then turn around and call self defense? I feel what you're saying about how folks would react or think, but to be the aggressor like Zimmerman was, and then still to this very day NOT be charged? That's bullshit.

[I2K Beta Mu]

Originally Posted by CrashTestPelosi

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What do you think about a black kid is walking down the street wearing a new pair of limited edition kicks and another black kid walks up behind him and shoots him in the head and then takes his shoes. Is that ok? That is a real story. Why no outrage? Was the shooter the wrong color?

There is no wrong or right color. But black on black crimes are not handled like they should be handled. White on black crimes or the other way around are handled differently, I believe. This shit has been going on for centuries, which is why I have issues with folks saying the race issues in this country has come a long way, and then turning around using Obama as an excuse as of how far this country has come. It hasn't. It's still the same shit different day. But you sound kind of racist. Some of the shit you're saying like "whitey" "black neighborhoods being fucked up", shit like that. What's up with that?

[I2K Beta Mu]

Originally Posted by CrashTestPelosi

I will let you pick any justice system you want. THe only kicker is that same system will apply to everyone. The problem is you will backtrack as soon as a brother gets arrested.

This is what makes you so fucking stupid. The system doesn't apply to everybody the same way.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by I2K Beta Mu

This is what makes you so fucking stupid. The system doesn't apply to everybody the same way.

Lol. He's going to get banned soon. Same shit, different day.

[I2K Beta Mu]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

You insinuated that he was the only TV journalist to "make" a news story for ratings. There are PLENTY of anchors who pick minuscule things and blow them up for the sake of ratings.

It's not a matter of what you think I "insinuated". I either said he was or didn't, and in this case I didn't. That was your own misconception of what I said.

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I reiterated that part because you and others continue to say "folks don't need to get shot based on what they wear." I have said multiple times that I agree with that. I don't know why it keeps getting brought up, though.

I'll admit when I'm wrong on some shit, I have no problem doing that. I think you and I are saying the same thing, but one of us is speaking on anger (me) and the other is looking at it from a more realistic perspective in real world situations (you), so I feel you. I'm just pissed off at the whole situation, and I'm not trying to turn this into a race issue if it hasn't already been turn into one, but if Zimmerman was a black dude, and Martin was a white dude wearing a hoodie, somehow, some way, the authorities would find a away to put dude behind bars. There is no way dude would still be walking around free. That's what's fucked up, to me. And I'm not going to hear any bullshit about me pulling the race card. I know it, and everybody else does too, whether they want to bullshit themselves or not.

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Lol. He's going to get banned soon. Same shit, different day.

CTFU! I heard about dude, so I stop responding to him. His shit was way out in left field. There's KKK that would have posted more interesting shit than dude did LOL.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by I2K Beta Mu

Geraldo is a journalist and his job is to talk about the story. He's voicing his opinion and saying shit he doesn't need to.

Do you really think Geraldo is the only journalist who spins stories for the sake of increased ratings?

With the other part of your post, you can walk down the street with whatever, but does that give me the right to follow you, chase you as you're trying to get away, shoot you, and then turn around and call self defense? I feel what you're saying about how folks would react or think, but to be the aggressor like Zimmerman was, and then still to this very day NOT be charged? That's bullshit.

I've said multiple times that I was looking at this outside of the Trayvon Martin context.

[I2K Beta Mu]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Do you really think Geraldo is the only journalist who spins stories for the sake of increased ratings?

Did I say that he was?

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I've said multiple times that I was looking at this outside of the Trayvon Martin context.

And what I am saying to you is that you are just as wrong as Geraldo.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by I2K Beta Mu

Did I say that he was?

You insinuated that he was the only TV journalist to "make" a news story for ratings. There are PLENTY of anchors who pick minuscule things and blow them up for the sake of ratings.

And what I am saying to you is that you are just as wrong as Geraldo.

I reiterated that part because you and others continue to say "folks don't need to get shot based on what they wear." I have said multiple times that I agree with that. I don't know why it keeps getting brought up, though.