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09-01-2012, 12:24 PM
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Define "real diversity"...
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Um, women of color? Let's start there.
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09-01-2012, 12:53 PM
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^^^^Doubt it. Not saying it's right, but that's how it is. However, I do see the lack of women of color thing changing over the next few years or so as college becomes more accessible to people of color and as people of color begin to make up more of the middle class.
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09-01-2012, 01:14 PM
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^^^^Doubt it. Not saying it's right, but that's how it is. However, I do see the lack of women of color thing changing over the next few years or so as college becomes more accessible to people of color and as people of color begin to make up more of the middle class.
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I have no intention to try to derail this thread, but I really do think this statement is utterly ridiculous.
1. College has always been accessible to women / people of color.
2. There are a number of people of color who have been, and are already, part of the middle class.
The veiled meaning that I am reading here is that as more Blacks move up the economic scale, then they will want to join historically White organizations.
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09-01-2012, 01:19 PM
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I think I worded it wrong, I meant more like, as more people of color earn degrees and have kids, the "first generation college student" gap closes for people of color. As our kids grow up and go to college, there will generally be more people of color on college campuses. That increases the possibility for more of us to go Greek (of any sort, not just NPC.)
There's also the legacy factor with people of color. As NPC members of color have kids, they'll be sending them to college as well.
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09-01-2012, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06
I think I worded it wrong, I meant more like, as more people of color earn degrees and have kids, the "first generation college student" gap closes for people of color. As our kids grow up and go to college, there will generally be more people of color on college campuses. That increases the possibility for more of us to go Greek (of any sort, not just NPC.)
There's also the legacy factor with people of color. As NPC members of color have kids, they'll be sending them to college as well.
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Ummm, no......
Still silly.
Ever heard of HBCUs, that have been in existance for at least 130 years, where the majority of the students attending are people of color / AfAm. So, Blacks have been earning degrees for years. Not "every" Black kid going to college is a first generation attendee.
I think you are trying to make a very broad assumption / generalization based on limited knowledge / awareness.
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09-01-2012, 04:58 PM
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I think you are trying to make a very broad assumption / generalization based on limited knowledge / awareness.
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This comment, in the context of being directed at KSUViolet, made me laugh.
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09-01-2012, 01:50 PM
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College has not always been easily accessible to women or women of color and NPC groups have not always been accessible to women of color. The first woman of color initiated into an NPC at my alma mater in 1992 (very liberal, urban, high African American population campus). The first man of color was initiated into an IFC fraternity on my campus in 1986. It was a BIG deal both times, causing a big uproar. There are more women of color attending college than before and there are more women of color joining NPCs but it is still far from the norm on most campuses. The percentages of women of color in NPCs are not the same as the percentages of women of color on college campuses. When that's true, then I would say it has become the norm.
I think KSUViolet has more awareness into this than most of us, frankly.
The legacy factor has a big influence also.
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09-01-2012, 05:58 PM
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^^^I know, right?
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09-02-2012, 01:40 AM
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^^ Fall 2015 is the word from Jill1228 and other elated Alpha Phis.
sorry Jill, must have extrapolated that from our FB convo!!!!
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09-02-2012, 01:48 AM
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^^ Fall 2015 is the word from Jill 1228 and other elated Alpha Phis.
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Actually, it wasn't from me. Someone else mentioned it, but yeah I am elated---I am not even gonna front!
Stoked for us and ADPi
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09-02-2012, 04:05 PM
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Congrats to ADPi's.
Question to those who have hands-on experience with colonizing chapters at Ole Miss. Always seemed very difficult for new sororities to become established at OM. The ones that succeeded seemed to be groups which had strong chapters in places which attracted increasing numbers of OOS students. For example, as more kids came to Ole Miss from Texas, sororities which had strong local roots (like Theta) had a natural draw.
As many others have commented in other threads, Ole Miss is a difficult colonization challenge. Not just the "top tiering" status stuff. What is different this time around for ADPi -- or any other chapter for that matter. Is there sufficient "sustainibility" built into the colonization model?
Thanks.
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09-02-2012, 04:32 PM
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How exciting for Alpha Phi and ADPi!
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09-02-2012, 05:04 PM
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Firm plans for a fabulous house, the physical house itself, are critical -- and not located off away from the other two house clusters. Any word on where the houses will be located?
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09-02-2012, 07:50 PM
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Firm plans for a fabulous house, the physical house itself, are critical -- and not located off away from the other two house clusters. Any word on where the houses will be located?
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Across the street from Theta is first house and across the street from Pi Phi is seconda and if a third group ever comes across from Chi Omega. (So on Rebel Drive)
Ole Miss NPC groups have been "diverse" since I was in school (96-00)...and that's diverse with African American women and even Int'l Students. The Ole Miss of today is not the one we all seem remember from decades ago. Our Student Body is very diverse which I think makes all women interested in our NPC groups on campus.
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09-04-2012, 12:17 AM
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Across the street from Theta is first house and across the street from Pi Phi is seconda and if a third group ever comes across from Chi Omega. (So on Rebel Drive
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NO!!!! Sounds like the new chapter houses will be put right in the parking lot where Theta, Pi Phi and Chi Omega girls parked when I was at Ole Miss. Are there new parking lots planned or have they already moved the parking for all of those houses since I was there?
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