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Old 08-21-2011, 04:23 PM
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OH no I dont criticize people that leave 18% at all! I have a problem with people leaving less than that for great service lol. My minimum is ALWAYS 20%. If they REALLLLLLLYY suck, then 18%..but thats rare. The 30% tip is reserved for people I know personally, servers or bartenders that really bust their ass for me if me or my friends are being picky or demanding, servers or bartenders that have "hooked you up" (giving you a couple beers free or not charging you for a soda, something like that), and usually during happy hour..if your check is $15, but due to 241 drinks should have been more like $30, then I tip on the original amount (the $30.. in which case Ill leave $8-9 or so).

I worked as a server and bartender all through college and it is hard work. Right now am bartending a few days a week for extra cash for my wedding in November. Trust me, I come across some really cheap people who just dont get that I only get paid $4.25 an hour and rely on their tips. I could go on and on about this subject so Ill shut it for now lol.

Most people who work in restaurants tip big.

For the rest of us, 15% is fair market for average service, no tip for bad service and a great tip depends on the service.

$1 for a $10 meal, what does the person expect $5, $10???

she may not have had 50 cents.
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Old 08-21-2011, 04:24 PM
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OH no I dont criticize people that leave 18% at all! I have a problem with people leaving less than that for great service lol. My minimum is ALWAYS 20%. If they REALLLLLLLYY suck, then 18%..but thats rare. The 30% tip is reserved for people I know personally, servers or bartenders that really bust their ass for me if me or my friends are being picky or demanding, servers or bartenders that have "hooked you up" (giving you a couple beers free or not charging you for a soda, something like that), and usually during happy hour..if your check is $15, but due to 241 drinks should have been more like $30, then I tip on the original amount (the $30.. in which case Ill leave $8-9 or so).
Your generosity should never be confused with a standard.

I leave 15% unless the person did something more awesome than the average server. I have high expectations in life and expect great things so someone has to be greater than great to be above average. Or I have to be feeling superdupergenerous which occasionally happens especially after a couple of glasses of red wine. I hope there is still a place for me in Heaven.

I don't think this has expired:
http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/tipping/
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Old 08-23-2011, 06:56 PM
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Personally, I wish Americans would just do away with the tipping system -- I'd much rather restaurants just increase the price of the meal to cover it or include a service charge -- but it'll never happen.
Hear, hear. I'm a 15% tipper, unless service is superior. I'm not a regular anywhere, because I don't eat out very much.
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Old 08-21-2011, 07:34 AM
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That is the most douchey thing I think I've ever heard. And yes, those people should be made to spend a week as a waiter. And good to know the students were trained right by someone.
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Old 08-21-2011, 08:43 AM
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I take all of these stories with a grain of salt. Maybe they are accurate. Maybe they are not.
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Old 08-21-2011, 09:07 AM
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Even if the stories aren't entirely accurate, the reality is that there are some douchey people in the world who don't tip, stars or no stars.
Even if I have incredibly lousy service I tip something, it might only be a buck, but I've never stiffed a waiter. I've never been a server but my brother and SIL were and I know from them about people stiffing them. I try to give the servers a little bit of the benefit of the doubt.
I have also tipped a completely different server, if he/she actually helped me and my original one didn't.
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Old 08-21-2011, 09:23 AM
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Even if the stories aren't entirely accurate, the reality is that there are some douchey people in the world who don't tip, stars or no stars.
And this should be the point rather than yet another rumor-mill about celebrities.

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Even if I have incredibly lousy service I tip something....
I don't and I never will. They should consider themselves lucky that I chose not to tip rather than speaking to a manager.
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Old 08-21-2011, 09:39 AM
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Well my question is why aren't the restaurants adding a gratuity to the bill? A lot of these stars roll with 7 or 8 (or more) people on a tab - in many restaurants they add a gratuity for parties over 6. Add the gratuity and be done with it!
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Old 08-21-2011, 12:32 PM
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Another reason why this list is a tardparty? The Tiger Woods 'incident' apparently happened at a blackjack table ... where tipping $5 (total) to a server is normal, and tipping generally should NOT be expected to scale with the table max.

Why should he tip a server bringing free drinks more than $1/per (which would be what you would do at a $25 table) simply because he's playing $10k/hand?

Anybody who gambles on an even recreational basis knows that tipping is part of the rake - which also doesn't scale.
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Old 08-21-2011, 12:33 PM
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Well my question is why aren't the restaurants adding a gratuity to the bill? A lot of these stars roll with 7 or 8 (or more) people on a tab - in many restaurants they add a gratuity for parties over 6. Add the gratuity and be done with it!
I believe high-end restaurants consider this practice gauche.
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Old 08-21-2011, 01:15 PM
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I believe high-end restaurants consider this practice gauche.
Perhaps. It's more common in Europe, but really, it's way more work to take care of a table of 12 than it is to take care of 3 tables of 4.
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Old 08-21-2011, 09:34 PM
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Perhaps. It's more common in Europe, but really, it's way more work to take care of a table of 12 than it is to take care of 3 tables of 4.
I thought it was more common in mid-range American restaurants, since in many European countries, service charges are added to the cost of a meal. An extra two or three Euros can be added if the service is exceptional.

It strikes me as pretty funny that most of the "bad tippers" haven't had the best publicity of late...Tiger Woods? Others might just be the victims of beef...LeBron James? Did a disgruntled Cleveland native write this article? These articles are silly...as is most anything related to "The Frisky."
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Old 08-22-2011, 06:18 AM
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I thought it was more common in mid-range American restaurants, since in many European countries, service charges are added to the cost of a meal. An extra two or three Euros can be added if the service is exceptional.
Depends on what country you visit. In some counties servers just get paid more because tipping isn't the standard. But in most servers make the minimum and rely on tips. Adding a service charge is not "what they do in Europe" but what they do in some European counties and it's usually mentioned on the menu.

I make minimum wage, and work my ass off (in my personality,huge perfectionist) and it sucks that people rake up a huge bill and just leave a few euros.
In The Netherlands the minimum wage for servers is a bit higher than in the US, so the standard is 10% for average service, more if it was really good and nothing if it sucked or if you're cheap. Also, we have to share the tip with the other servers, the kitchen staff and the bartenders so I only get to keep about 5% of what I get tipped.

I usually tip 10-15% here (15-20% when back in the U.S.) and always compliment a server if the service was good, tell the manager when it was exceptional.

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One huge difference, I've noticed the Dutch only tip in Bars/Restaurants and maybe Hotels. Not for hairdressers/coatchecking/gasstation. First time I went to the salon here I tried to leave a tip but the came after me, thinking I forgot my money .

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Old 08-21-2011, 12:51 PM
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Old 08-21-2011, 03:40 PM
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I'm not going to do a he/she said on this. I had no reason to doubt my pool man (or a few others who have similar stories about Cary Grant and others). I commend that donation. Just a bit to think about: there is public and then there is private behavior.
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