2011 recruitment bits and pieces - Page 6

AOII Angel · #1 08-24-2011, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DeltaBetaBaby

Many years ago, someone published an editorial like this in the Daily Illini. The Greeks subsequently put the DI out of business, forcing the University to step in and fund it. The OU Daily's editors would be wise to watch it.

SMH. I'm so sure someone would have made that comment to her during recruitment. Whatevs. Yes, our NSU and OU chapters are very different. I'm sorry she didn't find a place at the AOII chapter at OU. If she had gotten initiated at NSU, she could have just transferred. Odd that they didn't initiate her.

FSUZeta · #2 08-24-2011, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

SMH. I'm so sure someone would have made that comment to her during recruitment. Whatevs. Yes, our NSU and OU chapters are very different. I'm sorry she didn't find a place at the AOII chapter at OU. If she had gotten initiated at NSU, she could have just transferred. Odd that they didn't initiate her.

agreed! we definitely don't have the whole story on this one! i also find it fascinating that all the chapter but AOII dropped her after the first round, yet she focuses on AOII.

and you get suggestions for appropriate attire and choose to wear combat boots? puh-lease!

shirley1929 · #3 08-24-2011, 08:37 PM

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agreed! we definitely don't have the whole story on this one! i also find it fascinating that all the chapter but AOII dropped her after the first round, yet she focuses on AOII.

and you get suggestions for appropriate attire and choose to wear combat boots? puh-lease!

This whole thing (both the other article and this one) just makes me very sad for the OU Greek Community.

Katmandu · #4 08-24-2011, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

If she had gotten initiated at NSU, she could have just transferred. Odd that they didn't initiate her.

Yea, I call bull on this article. She participated in formal recruitment in the fall, pledged AOPi, but by the fall of next year, had still not initiated? We know it wasn't a grade issue...hmmmm. Somethin' ain't right here, and it may be the author.

Of course, she IS right about one thing... everyone in sororities in the large Oklahoma schools is blonde and tan. No brunettes allowed. That's why I dyed my own hair, so I could pledge at OSU. We did allow light brown at Ok State, because we were a landgrant school, but that was as far as we were willing to bend.

33girl · #5 08-24-2011, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AOII Angel

SMH. I'm so sure someone would have made that comment to her during recruitment. Whatevs. Yes, our NSU and OU chapters are very different. I'm sorry she didn't find a place at the AOII chapter at OU. If she had gotten initiated at NSU, she could have just transferred. Odd that they didn't initiate her.

It sounds like they didn't initiate her because they knew she was transferring and didn't want her to be stuck at a chapter she may have not liked or wanted to affiliate into, and spend the rest of her college years unhappy. Which is an absolutely exceptionally nice and mature thing for them to do. I mean - they lost a person from their year's quota. They could have just said "hey, go ahead and initiate!" and what happened after she transferred was her problem. I know that your policy might be that you *can* transfer directly into the chapter, but I'm guessing they've had enough interaction with the OU chapter to know some of them wouldn't have fit in well there, either.

I would hope any sorority chapter who had a NM who realized she was in that position (imminent transfer) would give her the same option and consideration.

DeltaBetaBaby · #6 08-25-2011, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

It sounds like they didn't initiate her because they knew she was transferring and didn't want her to be stuck at a chapter she may have not liked or wanted to affiliate into, and spend the rest of her college years unhappy. Which is an absolutely exceptionally nice and mature thing for them to do. I mean - they lost a person from their year's quota. They could have just said "hey, go ahead and initiate!" and what happened after she transferred was her problem. I know that your policy might be that you *can* transfer directly into the chapter, but I'm guessing they've had enough interaction with the OU chapter to know some of them wouldn't have fit in well there, either.

I would hope any sorority chapter who had a NM who realized she was in that position (imminent transfer) would give her the same option and consideration.

Still, the timing is weird...If it's fall recruitment and a six-week NM period, would you know you were transferring in October of the previous year?

angels&angles · #7 08-25-2011, 09:03 AM

I thought she was still in HS when she "pledged" the NSU group? So she may not have pledged at all, but rather been taken on as a kind of mascot?

shirley1929 · #8 08-25-2011, 09:50 AM

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I thought she was still in HS when she "pledged" the NSU group? So she may not have pledged at all, but rather been taken on as a kind of mascot?

^^ This is what I think. She couldn't be a full-time college student if she was still a full-time high school student, right?

AOII Angel · #9 08-25-2011, 10:01 AM

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^^ This is what I think. She couldn't be a full-time college student if she was still a full-time high school student, right?

That's what I think. I'm glad she had a good experience at our chapter. Apparently it set her up with expectations at the next school. I hope she finds peace with this time in her life.

SWTXBelle · #10 08-25-2011, 09:05 AM

I call shenanigans - a family member of mine likes to say she "Didn't initiate because she didn't like the way the chapter had treated her" when in fact - she didn't make her grades and could not have initiated even had she wanted to. I am always suspicious of excuses for not initiating.

Low C Sharp · #11 08-25-2011, 10:19 AM

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Many years ago, someone published an editorial like this in the Daily Illini. The Greeks subsequently put the DI out of business, forcing the University to step in and fund it.

Ugh. I hope that if one Greek circulated something nasty about the newspaper, the newspaper wouldn't try to get the chapter shut down. If it did, people would rightly judge the newspaper for pursuing a vendetta based on one person's opinion.

SWTXBelle · #12 08-25-2011, 10:25 AM

Here's the difference - a newspaper has to maintain an audience for its product. If it doesn't, it will go out of business. Any newspaper which alienates a major portion of its readership brings about its own difficulties. It isn't an individual - it is a business (even on the college level) and it needs to make its editorial choices based on that. That doesn't mean it shouldn't run individual opinion pieces - I am a newspaper columnist for a commercial paper and my raison d'etre is putting forth my opinon - but it should try to address both sides of purely subjective topics. If you are going to have an article slamming the sorority system it would behoove you to get another viewpoint in there, or understand you may be undermining your business.

DeltaBetaBaby · #13 08-25-2011, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Here's the difference - a newspaper has to maintain an audience for its product. If it doesn't, it will go out of business. Any newspaper which alienates a major portion of its readership brings about its own difficulties. It isn't an individual - it is a business (even on the college level) and it needs to make its editorial choices based on that. That doesn't mean it shouldn't run individual opinion pieces - I am a newspaper columnist for a commercial paper and my raison d'etre is putting forth my opinon - but it should try to address both sides of purely subjective topics. If you are going to have an article slamming the sorority system it would behoove you to get another viewpoint in there, or understand you may be undermining your business.

At the time, you had to subscribe to the DI, on paper. More than 75% of the subscriptions went to Greek Houses. Um, duh?

Low C Sharp · #14 08-25-2011, 10:33 AM

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a newspaper has to maintain an audience for its product. If it doesn't, it will go out of business.

Isn't this true of a Greek system, and an individual chapter, as well? Hundreds of chapters have gone under due to unpopularity with their target audience. It behooves them just as much to be careful how the actions of one member may alienate another group of students.

At any rate, I wasn't arguing that the paper shouldn't have seen it coming, nor that the Greeks at UIUC didn't have a right to boycott the paper if they wanted to. I'm arguing that if they exercised that right based on one editorial, that was an ugly decision and reflects poorly on the system.

DeltaBetaBaby · #15 08-25-2011, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Low C Sharp

At any rate, I wasn't arguing that the paper shouldn't have seen it coming, nor that the Greeks at UIUC didn't have a right to boycott the paper if they wanted to. I'm arguing that if they exercised that right based on one editorial, that was an ugly decision and reflects poorly on the system.

Oh, is this one of those threads where you, the wise non-Greek, tell Greeks what we should or should not have done?