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06-11-2011, 10:54 AM
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I think that's part of the culture of the majority of the United States ... 
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No, not in the way she's speaking of. There's a difference between (for lack of a better term) secular Christianity and practicing Christianity.
There's also a big difference between denominations.
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06-11-2011, 10:30 AM
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Ok great. Then I'll word it this way: I've spent my entire life down here and it is part of the culture, even for the non-religious/non-Christian. Doesn't change the point.
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Uh...what? LOL. I'm only talking about the southern part of your post.
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06-11-2011, 10:55 AM
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Uh...what? LOL. I'm only talking about the southern part of your post.
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As was I. Specifically this phenomenon:
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I love how people look at New York and LA as the North and everything else is the South.
I understand what Alumiyum is trying to say, but the problem is she is ascribing it as a southern stereotype, when it is a US stereotype. Outside of the cities of California religious diversity isn't something that is common. And don't get started on New York vs NYC.
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I am not talking about regions that are homogeneous religion-wise...I'm talking about the virulent southern baptist contingent.
Disclaimer: No offense to baptists (my parents grew up southern baptist, but became methodists after the conservative views expected of them got a little OOC)...it just seems that particular flavor attracts the most vocal element down here.
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That is a horrible map; I can't tell what exactly it is supposed to be showing? Here are some more informative (and labeled!) ones: http://religions.pewforum.org/maps
I suppose if you consider Southern Baptists to be the only Christians who "count" for your purposes, they certainly are concentrated in the South, but I really don't get it ...
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06-11-2011, 10:54 AM
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I love how people look at New York and LA as the North and everything else is the South.
I understand what Alumiyum is trying to say, but the problem is she is ascribing it as a southern stereotype, when it is a US stereotype. Outside of the cities of California religious diversity isn't something that is common. And don't get started on New York vs NYC.
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Did she really post a map? Ha.
Anyway, me thinks Alumiyum (as with many southerners) is adamant about such things being a southern thing and is therefore hellbent on fueling a southern stereotype.  Even when claiming that she's not trying to fuel a southern stereotype.  Have at it.
33girl, I know what Alumiyum is talking about and it isn't just a southern thing. This was not just a discussion of regional religious demographics.
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06-11-2011, 11:09 AM
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Did she really post a map? Anyway....
Me thinks Alumiyum (as with many southerners) is adamant about such things being a southern thing and is therefore hellbent on fueling a southern stereotype.  Even when claiming that she's not trying to fuel a southern stereotype.  Have at it.
33girl, I know what Alumiyum is talking about and it isn't just a southern thing.
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You prove your point well my friend, that holier than thou certainly isn't limited to local churches. Applause.
I'm not trying to fuel or un-fuel anything. I'm certainly not invested in southern stereotypes as the majority of them don't happen to apply to me. I was just born here. Either you don't understand what I am talking about or you have no experience with it since the southern baptist contingent is what I am referring to (again, no offense to baptists as I realize individuals don't necessarily represent the actual beliefs). I am by no means under the impression that the same phenomenon does not occur in other parts of the country (or in fact in ways not even related to Christianity at all), but the dynamics can certainly be different since the dominant denomination is different.
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That is a horrible map; I can't tell what exactly it is supposed to be showing? Here are some more informative (and labeled!) ones: http://religions.pewforum.org/maps
I suppose if you consider Southern Baptists to be the only Christians who "count" for your purposes, they certainly are concentrated in the South, but I really don't get it ...
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I had no trouble interpreting it whatsoever. I didn't find it difficult to read the key at all.
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06-11-2011, 11:21 AM
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You prove your point well my friend, that holier than thou certainly isn't limited to local churches.
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That wasn't my point so what are you talking about? Do you even know? You are showing your own bias.
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I'm not trying to fuel or un-fuel anything. I'm certainly not invested in southern stereotypes as the majority of them don't happen to apply to me.
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I responded that it isn't just the south and you were adamant about it being a southern thing. You are the one who insists upon the larger point being missed because you want this to be a regional thing.
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06-11-2011, 11:25 AM
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That wasn't my point so what are you talking about? Do you even know? You are showing your own bias.
I responded that it isn't just the south and you were adamant about it being a southern thing. You are the one who insists upon the larger point being missed because you want this to be a regional thing.
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My bad, it wasn't your point. It's just your behavior.
I am not "insisting upon the larger point being missed because I want this to be a regional thing". As I have said many times now the phenomenon itself is certainly limited to no one region. However it manifests itself differently in different regions.
Again: no one is arguing that it doesn't happen anywhere else.
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My bad, it wasn't your point. It's just your behavior.
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As long as this response made sense to you.
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...the phenomenon itself is certainly limited to no one region.
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Good.
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