Impressions of SAE and frats in general

[HawaiiTKE]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

For someone who's been a member on this forum for a long time and with a 5000+ post record you would think you would know these things.


MULTI CULTURAL as in MULTI CULTURAL MEMBERSHIP!

i.e.

http://www.sigmalambdabeta.com/

They are a latino based fraternity with multi cultural membership.

Latino-based organization with multicultural membership

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigma_Lambda_Beta

[knight_shadow]

Oh dear.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by HawaiiTKE

For someone who's been a member on this forum for a long time and with a 5000+ post record you would think you would know these things.

MULTI CULTURAL as in MULTI CULTURAL MEMBERSHIP!

i.e.

http://www.sigmalambdabeta.com/

They are a latino based fraternity with multi cultural membership.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigma_Lambda_Beta

Hint to you, HawaiiTKE: Since preciousjeni has held national leadership positions in a multicultural sorority, I think there's a good chance she knows exactly what it means. Her suggestion was that it seemed you don't, and this post tends to confirm that. Having multicultural membership is not the same as being a multiclutural GLO, where "multicultural" refers to the purpose, not the membership.

A thread worth reading: Why do multicultural GLOs/organizations exist?

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

So the next time we meet, I will not fail. I will go up to the six-fingered man and say...

preciousjeni, you.made.my.day.

[DrPhil]

Damn shame what they did to that dog.

HawaiiTKE isn't swift enough to notice that preciousjeni is a member of Theta Nu Xi. He is confused about everysinglething he has typed in this thread. I knew that his attempts at explaining himself would result in this.

ETA: HawaiiTKE's confusion is not only his and we've discussed this a lot of GC. People do not understand what "Latino based with multicultural membership" means. I have also seen it referenced as "Latino based multicultural fraternity" or included under "multicultural Greek organizations" on colleges' and universities' websites.

[preciousjeni]

Originally Posted by AzTheta

So the next time we meet, I will not fail. I will go up to the six-fingered man and say...

preciousjeni, you.made.my.day.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

ETA: HawaiiTKE's confusion is not only his and we've discussed this a lot of GC. People do not understand what "Latino based with multicultural membership" means. I have also seen it referenced as "Latino based multicultural fraternity" or included under "multicultural Greek organizations" on colleges' and universities' websites.

The trouble started when he was talking about organizations populated primarily by "minority students" and then settled on the term "multicultural" to describe them. Based on his posts, it appeared he was talking about any non-NPC/NIC "cultural" (I know you aren't too fond of the term) org.

Then, he unwittingly stumbled onto the contentious topic of what constitutes a multicultural Greek organization.

The trajectory of his posts doomed him from the start.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by preciousjeni

The trouble started when he was talking about organizations populated primarily by "minority students" and then settled on the term "multicultural" to describe them. Based on his posts, it appeared he was talking about any non-NPC/NIC "cultural" (I know you aren't too fond of the term) org.

Then, he unwittingly stumbled onto the contentious topic of what constitutes a multicultural Greek organization.

The trajectory of his posts doomed him from the start.

Yep, we tried to help Ike but Ike don't want no help.

[SAEalumnus]

Originally Posted by HawaiiTKE

I agree with the diversity that each fraternity should have. But in college there are not a lot of minority students, and I think it just creates a bond amongst possible social outcasts (as in they stand out because they are not white which is the predominant race in colleges today). Maybe they don't feel like they fit in? I don't know. Just my two cents though. Lol.

In the interest of a counter-example, these are the enrollment statistics for the university I've most recently attended:

African American: 4.46%
Asian American: 22.13%
Caucasian: 27.39%
Latino/Latina: 29.57%
Native American: 1.04%
Other/Unknown: 10.52%
Visa non-U.S. citizen: 4.89%

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by SAEalumnus

In the interest of a counter-example, these are the enrollment statistics for the university I've most recently attended:

African American: 4.46%
Asian American: 22.13%
Caucasian: 27.39%
Latino/Latina: 29.57%
Native American: 1.04%
Other/Unknown: 10.52%
Visa non-U.S. citizen: 4.89%

I do not know the purpose of a counter-example but the university you recently attended represents a very small percentage of colleges and universities in North America.

The average racial and ethnic minority in North America who attends college is attending a college or university in which they are a minority in both population size and power.

Even with your counter-example African American students (and Native American students) probably formed or are interested in forming a BSU or some equivalent. And it is important to note that higher enrollment statistics for some racial and ethnic minorities does not mean that racial and ethnic minorities are in positions of power at the college or university. You can have a lot of nonwhite students but they may rarely have nonwhite professors and higher ranking staff and administrators.

[HawaiiTKE]

Well when I asked my friend he didn't tell me that his fraternity was Latino he said it was a multi cultural fraternity which is why I posted that.

Plenty of people I know refer to themselves as that. But whatever.

[HawaiiTKE]

He was probably just misinformed.

[LatinaAlumna]

I can't believe I missed this thread!