COBing fresh when upperclass quota isn't met

[AGDee]

In my opinion (note *opinion*), If that many chapters are COBing to get to Total, then they increased Total by too much. Additionally, if upperclassman quota is that high compared to underclassman quota, then they shouldn't even bother with upperclassman Total.

I also firmly believe that it is up to a chapter whether they want to take advantage of the upperclassman quota or not. I reviewed a chapter's numbers just last night and they have 4 seniors, 18 juniors, 4 sophomores and 15 freshman. This chapter should absolutely NOT, under any circumstance, take more juniors. They are going to lose about half their chapter in one year and are going to be in big trouble. They DO need to take a lot of sophomores. Total is 35 on this campus so they are sitting pretty right now, but are looking at disaster in a year. Nobody has the right to tell them they have to take Juniors because of an upperclassman quota.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

I still don't see what the problem is with the system you have in place. Are a lot of upperclassmen going bidless? How many/what percentage?

[Drolefille]

This is just coming off as "it's OUR job to have the big pledge class and be over total"
You don't know what happened in their MS, and you were obviously OVER TOTAL so it wasn't an issue.

If quota doesn't increase over the next year or two, or this becomes a trend, then lower total otherwise be happy with your new members and stop stomping your feet yelling "It's not FAIIIIIR."

[Drolefille]

12 does seem high, but if they have a high number of juniors and seniors due to transfers - and without the upperclassmen quota you had seriously disproportionate pledge classes - it may be a good thing. Sounds like they need to adjust total if quota doesn't pick up next year.

[AGDee]

12 seems extremely high to be having a separate quota for. It also seems like she's including sophomores in the upperclassmen total because she refers to the "freshman class", which is unusual. Usually we hear "Junior quota".

Thinking about the numbers here.. if 3 or 4 of the 7 chapters had to COB to Total after formal recruitment, then they raised Total by too much. You had 203 freshmen women attending prefs and 84 upperclassman. If a chapter took quota for both F and U, then they have a new member class of 41. To be under Total after taking 41, that means they started with less than 66 members that term. Generally, on campuses where they have a separate upperclassmen quota, most chapters can reach Total with just the regular quota and the upperclassmen quota are a bonus.

I'm very curious how many of the 84 women attending as Upperclassmen were Sophs, Juniors and Seniors. It seems to me that Sophs should just be included in regular Total.

Is your campus getting assistance from NPC in setting release figures and quota/Total?

[Drolefille]

^^ What Dee said.

[AZTheta]

Darn it, the OP deleted most/all of her posts and I am trying to follow this thread to learn something, and I'm now completely lost. I'll just ask AZ-AlphaXi to explain all that RFM stuff to me next time we have lunch. This is too confusing.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by AzTheta

Darn it, the OP deleted most/all of her posts and I am trying to follow this thread to learn something, and I'm now completely lost. I'll just ask AZ-AlphaXi to explain all that RFM stuff to me next time we have lunch. This is too confusing.

You can probably piece it together, but most of the pertinent stuff was quoted.


To the OP:

[agzg]

Would a collegian even get an N'Sync reference? I mean... I was in high school when they started to break up. They would have been in elementary school?

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by agzg

Would a collegian even get an N'Sync reference? I mean... I was in high school when they started to break up. They would have been in elementary school?

Saddest. Post. Ever.

[ColdInCanada11]

Originally Posted by agzg

Would a collegian even get an N'Sync reference? I mean... I was in high school when they started to break up. They would have been in elementary school?

Granted, I'm at end of my undergrad, but we definitely know who N'Sync is You don't forget a band like that lol

[agzg]

Originally Posted by ColdInCanada11

Granted, I'm at end of my undergrad, but we definitely know who N'Sync is You don't forget a band like that lol

You're Canadian. Doesn't count.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by ColdInCanada11

Granted, I'm at end of my undergrad, but we definitely know who N'Sync is You don't forget a band like that lol

Oh no, you guys call them a BAND? What has education come to!


/kidding kidding

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by agzg

Would a collegian even get an N'Sync reference? I mean... I was in high school when they started to break up. They would have been in elementary school?

I distinctly remember singing "Phi, Phi, Phi" during rush my sophomore year.

[agzg]

I mean, they'd probably get that that was Justin Timberlake. And maybe JC based on the America's Dance Crew show, but I think Chris Kirkpatrick in the background there would be utterly unknown to them.