Fraternity and Sorority Arms, Seals, Flags and other Insignia

[Lafayette79]

Originally Posted by SthrnZeta

That's actually ZTA's Official Banner but we also have a flag now with just the crest on it:

I think that just about all of our Coats of Arms and badges are very appealing, but I have never seen a flag, including my own, which is anything but ugly. Except for this Zeta banner, which is beautiful. Since I knew Zetas while an active, and my cousin/brother's daughter is a Zeta, this makes me happy.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Lafayette79

I think that just about all of our Coats of Arms and badges are very appealing, but I have never seen a flag, including my own, which is anything but ugly.

Is the ADPi flag the one shown in this post above? If it isn't, do you have a picture? (And if it is, what are the colors?)

I'll admit I'm not a huge fan of flags that are just coats-of-arms on a single- or multi-colored field. And I say that even though I love the flag of my own fraternity:

(As I said above, this isn't a great picture. The "yellow" should be gold.)

But there are some fraternity flags that I think are very striking and beautiful. In no particular order:

Beta Theta Pi:



Sigma Chi:



Alpha Tau Omega:



Kappa Alpha Order:



Sigma Nu:



Alpha Chi Rho:



Tau Kappa Epsilon:



Sigma Phi Epsilon:



Delta Upsilon:

[Lafayette79]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Is the ADPi flag the one shown in this post above? If it isn't, do you have a picture? (And if it is, what are the colors?)

But there are some fraternity flags that I think are very striking and beautiful. In no particular order:

I'm sorry, but I just don't like any of these flags. They all seem kind of garish to me, which is why I commented on the Zeta flag, it is much more subtle in my opinion. The badge thread and the Coat of Arms thread has so much beautiful work that I just think that our flags are not in the same class.

For the ADPi question, I would not pass the gender requirements for that, although I had a dear friend in ADPi. My sig is a quote from an ADPhi, namely Otter who was the real Otter from Animal House. Chris Miller, who was one of the writers of the movie, wrote a book about his experiences at Dartmouth as an ADPhi which was the basis of the movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KgP4SHUy6Q

Arthur O'Shaughnessy:
We are the music makers,
And we are the dreamers of dreams,
Wandering by lone sea-breakers,
And sitting by desolate streams;—
World-losers and world-forsakers,
On whom the pale moon gleams:
Yet we are the movers and shakers
Of the world for ever, it seems.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Lafayette79

I'm sorry, but I just don't like any of these flags. They all seem kind of garish to me, which is why I commented on the Zeta flag, it is much more subtle in my opinion.

To each his own, and I certainly won't criticize someone who quotes Arthur O'Shaughnessy back to me.

I will point out that the pictures I found don't do the colors justice. For example, the blue in the ATO and Sigma Chi flags should be much lighter. But I'll also explain my thought on these flags a little though. One reason I started this thread is because I'm an amateur vexillologist (someone who studies flags). From the standpoint of vexillographry (flag design), the examples I gave would be considered better designs than a design that has a coat of arms on a field. The reason would be that the designs above are simple, involve no more than two or three colors and include no words or other emblems (like a coat of arms) that would be backwards on the reverse (backside) of the flag. In other words, they "read" better, especially from a distance. Even with a coat of arms that is immediately recognizable (like Zeta's) the elements in the design can be hard to make out unless one is close to the flag. (This is why many state flags with seals on a blue field are concerned poor designs by vexillographers and vexillologists.)

Admittedly, the concern about "reading" may not matter as much to some GLOs. Some flags/banners (Zeta's?) may be intended primarily to hang on a wall rather than fly outdoors. All of the examples I posted above, I have seen flying -- at houses, tailgates, HQs, etc.

I particularly like how ATO and Teke use their coats of arms in their flags, which are essentially the shield of their arms in flag form:

Alpha Tau Omega:





Tau Kappa Epsilon:

For the ADPi question, I would not pass the gender requirements for that, although I had a dear friend in ADPi. My sig is a quote from an ADPhi, namely Otter who was the real Otter from Animal House. Chris Miller, who was one of the writers of the movie, wrote a book about his experiences at Dartmouth as an ADPhi which was the basis of the movie.

LOL, I should have picked that up about Otter's quote. Sorry for my confusion/mistake. Not where I got ADPi, unless I just read too fast at some point.

So what does ADPhi's flag look like?

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Is the ADPi flag the one shown in this post above? If it isn't, do you have a picture? (And if it is, what are the colors?

the picture that is shown is the only picture of the Alpha Delta Pi picture I've ever seen. It is used in certain rituals, and that is all. We do have the Chapter Flags, much like everyone else - white flags with the chapter information in azure blue. I tried to copy & paste a picture of those flags, but couldn't.

ADPis, please run any further info past texas*princess or me prior to posting!

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by honeychile

We do have the Chapter Flags, much like everyone else - white flags with the chapter information in azure blue. I tried to copy & paste a picture of those flags, but couldn't.

Would these:



from this post of yours be they?

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Would these:



from this post of yours be they?

Yes, those of the Chapter flags, and they're paraded at Convention. Thanks for finding that photo - the one I found wouldn't copy.

[pshsx1]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

But there are some fraternity flags that I think are very striking and beautiful. In no particular order:

Sigma Phi Epsilon:

As do I! :P I do like all of those flags, though. The brown-yellow should definitely be gold here too (just like the Epsilon in my siggy). I love both the Ritual and display flags.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by pshsx1

The brown-yellow should definitely be gold here too (just like the Epsilon in my siggy).

Is this better?

[pshsx1]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

Is this better?

lol what I meant to say was that the Epsilon in my siggy should me more gold as well, not that the flag should be the same color. I just realized I grammarfailed.

[SthrnZeta]

Originally Posted by Lafayette79

I think that just about all of our Coats of Arms and badges are very appealing, but I have never seen a flag, including my own, which is anything but ugly. Except for this Zeta banner, which is beautiful. Since I knew Zetas while an active, and my cousin/brother's daughter is a Zeta, this makes me happy.

I LOVE our official banner:



I think it's pretty unique and it can be displayed publicly but its meaning is secret