Auburn University Recruitment - Fall 2010 - Page 12

33girl · #1 08-13-2010, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by auburnmom09

And I was just trying to "encourage" a Mom and her daughter to hang in there and see what she thinks about them after their Prefs. My daughter's sorority has nothing to do with this and would certainly not be considered one of the ones you might critize.

Honey, I advise you to spend a little more than 2.5 seconds on GC and search my posts in the recruitment forum before saying I would "critize" a sorority.

KSUViolet06 · #2 08-13-2010, 01:54 AM

On a more optimistic note, 3 invites today does not always = 0 tomorrow!

FSUZeta · #3 08-13-2010, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

On a more optimistic note, 3 invites today does not always = 0 tomorrow!

exactly!!

AUMOMMY · #4 08-13-2010, 08:49 AM

Isn't there something called Snap Bids too. Also, I think my daughter has mentioned girls being picked up in the spring because of seniors that held over a semester or graduated early. Not all COB offers are because a sorority did not make quota/numbers during rush.

Katmandu · #5 08-13-2010, 09:06 AM

Snap bids happen during formal recruitment. It is an option available to chapters not filling quota by bidmatching during Formal Recruitment. If the sorority gets their bid list and they are not at quota/total, they can offer snap bids to women who were registered for formal recruitment and dropped out or did not receive a bid. Often these snap bids are offered so quickly that the newly bidded women arrive with the other new members to bid day activities and others don't know who received a bid via the pref card and who received a snap bid. A PNM is not eligible for snap bids if she has suicided or otherwise minimized her options during recruitment.

I suspect it may be rare at Auburn for snap bids to be offered, unless a chapter misjudged their return rate for parties, and under-invited for pref--which can sometimes happen, even in chapters that are always at quota/total. AGAIN, this is a small number....

When seniors graduate early, people drop out of school, deactivate, that is a COB bid or informal recruitment scenario.

Edited to add: BUT AT COMPETITIVE CAMPUSES, chapters are so far above total that losing a few seniors does not typically result in COB.

AZTheta · #6 08-13-2010, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Katmandu

When seniors graduate early, people drop out of school, deactivate, that is a COB bid or informal recruitment scenario.

Could you clarify this for me (and probably others): because COB is an "option" does not necessarily mean that a chapter will conduct it, correct?

More specifically, if campus total is "130" but all chapters have 200+ members (give or take a few), and there are resignations/deactivations/seniors graduating mid-year, would a given chapter participate/have the option of COB?

looking forward to the answer, this is puzzling to me and I haven't researched it deeply.

an aside regarding something I've been thinking about:Another reason that cuts may be so painful and surprising for the PNMs is that we (as humans) would prefer to be the "rejectors" rather than the "rejectees" and for most young people, rejection isn't something they've experienced to this extent and this degree.

Barbie's_Rush · #7 08-13-2010, 09:35 AM

I really hate that we even talk about COR on this site. It gives way too much false hopes to pnms who have had disappointing recruitments.

Do not drop out of recruitment based on an expectation that the chapters you loved who dropped you will have COR opportunities!

At a competitive campus, the "desirable" chapters are over total. Usually that means considerably over total. So unless eleventy bajillion new members quit before initiating or graduate mid-term, there will not be any COR for those chapters. The chapters doing COR are most likely going to be the same ones the pnm has left on her party schedule during formal recruitment. You know, the chapters she doesn't want right now.

Once in a while, a pnm can get lucky with COR on a campus like this, but it should never ever be counted on as a back door into a sorority that dropped you during formal.

MUSK81 · #8 08-13-2010, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Katmandu

Snap bids happen during formal recruitment. It is an option available to chapters not filling quota by bidmatching during Formal Recruitment. If the sorority gets their bid list and they are not at quota/total, they can offer snap bids to women who were registered for formal recruitment and dropped out or did not receive a bid. Often these snap bids are offered so quickly that the newly bidded women arrive with the other new members to bid day activities and others don't know who received a bid via the pref card and who received a snap bid. A PNM is not eligible for snap bids if she has suicided or otherwise minimized her options during recruitment.

I suspect it may be rare at Auburn for snap bids to be offered, unless a chapter misjudged their return rate for parties, and under-invited for pref--which can sometimes happen, even in chapters that are always at quota/total. AGAIN, this is a small number....

When seniors graduate early, people drop out of school, deactivate, that is a COB bid or informal recruitment scenario.

Edited to add: BUT AT COMPETITIVE CAMPUSES, chapters are so far above total that losing a few seniors does not typically result in COB.

OK, I get that snap bids can go to PNMs who were cut by all houses before pref or who didn't get bids after pref, but can a girl who minimized her options by dropping out voluntarily before pref get a snap bid?
We didn't do snap bids at my school back in the day, but we did have the option, when filling out our preference sheets, in going on the "open bid" list for each sorority. This meant you were willing to accept a bid from any group on campus even if you had not gone to their pref party, which sort of amounts to the same thing, I guess. Also, in principle, I guess you could receive bids from more than one group. I only know one girl, who had to miss some parties due to a family emergency, who did this, but I don't know how many bids she got.

AZTheta · #9 08-13-2010, 10:02 AM

thanks to everyone for the clarifications and explanations. I Get It Now.

No more talk about COB/COR from this corner, now that my questions are answered. Finished.

MerryGPhiB · #10 08-13-2010, 10:12 AM

Hi there all- I received a quick note from Suzie's mom this AM and she is quite EXCITED!! She was invited back to her top three houses! They are :

1. 49ers
2. Saints
2. Panthers

her atititude has been great, but she does admit to love the 49ers ( I'm sure it's due to Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Steve Young etc) but knows she would be happy in any of the three houses.

I hope Emma , Cassie and Stephanie have good news today as well!

perfectinpurple · #11 08-13-2010, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MerryGPhiB

Hi there all- I received a quick note from Suzie's mom this AM and she is quite EXCITED!! She was invited back to her top three houses! They are :

1. 49ers
2. Saints
2. Panthers

her atititude has been great, but she does admit to love the 49ers ( I'm sure it's due to Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Steve Young etc) but knows she would be happy in any of the three houses.

I hope Emma , Cassie and Stephanie have good news today as well!

Oh Yay! Finally an update (and finally a little relief from that SRA

)! I'm glad she got invited back to her top 3, and I hope she has a great day at Preference!

Can't wait to hear about the other ladies, I hope there's good news from them as well.

AUmom2 · #12 08-13-2010, 10:46 AM

I just heard from Stephanie. She received three invitations. She was invited to 2 of her top 3 and her number 4. The one that did not invite her back had been her top all week until yesterday...when her number 8 became her number 1. This morning's update from her came by text, so I don't know if she was disappointed to be released by that one or not. If I could hear her voice, I could tell.

Who knows what will happen today. The way things have been going, I wouldn't be surprised if her number 4 becomes her number 1.

I'll update tonight.

aumom2010 · #13 08-13-2010, 11:46 AM

I tried to post this earlier, but I don't think it worked, so it may be a repeat.

Rush for Cassie is over. The two groups she liked released her. The other group which she definitely feels is wrong for her invited her, but she will not attend unless required to do so.

She is still interested in COB, but we both know that that may not work out for her.

I am probably more upset than she is at this point. I really don't care if she doesn't pledge, but my heart aches for her disappointment. She feels insulted, rejected, and embarrassed right now.

I know lots of wonderful girls are released during the process, but the fact remains that about 800 or more girls somehow measured up, and she was found lacking.

She will get past this and I know things will probably work out in the end.

Best of luck to Suzie, Emma, and Stephanie. Thanks to all of you who have been supportive.

AuburnDad · #14 08-13-2010, 12:13 PM

Emma just texted. It's good news and bad news again.

The good news is that she will go to preference with three invitations.

The bad news is that she was released by two of her favorites. Her one remaining favorite, is the Reds. She is feeling confused because she said that it went "really, really well" with the Cubs and her hostess had told her that she "really hoped to see her tomorrow (pref)". I told her that the hostess was only one girl in the chapter, and that the 3 you have left are all you can worry about. I quoted one of the posts in this thread - "Try to wipe the slate clean and mentally start fresh with just these 3".

I believe that she will maximize her options, but is a little confused and hurting today, and hoping for the best.

Apparently, they are taking their cell phones away so we won't hear from these PNM's again until this evening.

Xylochick216 · #15 08-13-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by aumom2010

I tried to post this earlier, but I don't think it worked, so it may be a repeat.

Rush for Cassie is over. The two groups she liked released her. The other group which she definitely feels is wrong for her invited her, but she will not attend unless required to do so.

She is still interested in COB, but we both know that that may not work out for her.

I am probably more upset than she is at this point. I really don't care if she doesn't pledge, but my heart aches for her disappointment. She feels insulted, rejected, and embarrassed right now.

I know lots of wonderful girls are released during the process, but the fact remains that about 800 or more girls somehow measured up, and she was found lacking.

She will get past this and I know things will probably work out in the end.

Best of luck to Suzie, Emma, and Stephanie. Thanks to all of you who have been supportive.

If she hasn't already formally withdrawn, I would recommend she at least attend pref. She's not bound to anything and can withdraw after. Pref can sometimes change your mind about a group.