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05-22-2002, 12:50 PM
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Re: Re: W&L
I'm going to agree with DeltAlum's opinion on the Princeton Review. Because while FSU is a fun school,I don't think we deserve to be that high on the list. We have over 30,000 students with 12-15% Greek....and the Greek System is not completely dominant or influential...at least that's not how I saw it (from both the Independent and then Greek perspective). We also have had quite a few fraternities in serious trouble over the past couple of years and 2 sororities have left campus (due to low numbers) since 1999.
I'm sure the university president is having a fit if he's seen this latest statistic. He is very anti-Greek and has been imposing a lot of rules to try and squelch the Greek System. It is his #1 priority to try and make FSU a "research" university and to change the party school image. From the time I got there (1997) to the time I graduated (2001) you could tell a change in the atmosphere. Don't even get me started....
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07-05-2006, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ladybug1116
I'm going to agree with DeltAlum's opinion on the Princeton Review. Because while FSU is a fun school,I don't think we deserve to be that high on the list. We have over 30,000 students with 12-15% Greek....and the Greek System is not completely dominant or influential...at least that's not how I saw it (from both the Independent and then Greek perspective). We also have had quite a few fraternities in serious trouble over the past couple of years and 2 sororities have left campus (due to low numbers) since 1999.
I'm sure the university president is having a fit if he's seen this latest statistic. He is very anti-Greek and has been imposing a lot of rules to try and squelch the Greek System. It is his #1 priority to try and make FSU a "research" university and to change the party school image. From the time I got there (1997) to the time I graduated (2001) you could tell a change in the atmosphere. Don't even get me started.... 
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You're kidding, right? TK is a Phi Delt, and I know for a FACT that he regularly attends PDT alumni get togethers. I'm on an e-mail list of several of his brothers who I am friends with and I see messages back and forth with those guys all the time. He is HUGELY loyal to his fraternity, and there are tons of Greek graduates in our shared general age range who have made millions and who he has persuaded to donate money in the millions.
Of course he wants to make the University better. He's a graduate of the school!
And quite frankly, some of the isht that was going on with the fraternities needed to be squelched. Tell me that the ATO's and SAE's didn't deserve to get the boot for a while? By the way, the ATO's are back and the E's have waaay too many very influential Golden Chief donors not to get back. There's too much partying going on and not enough going to college. Don't get me started on my own house. They couldn't win an award from our national if their lives depended on it, unless it was for most implants or most nights out at Potbellies or most hottie blondes who do nothing but look just a little too South Beach. Oh boy, am I going to be in hot water for that remark. But it's true.
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05-22-2002, 01:56 PM
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That article was a little dumb, I thought, because it was all about the party stereotype. With pretty much every school there was a comment about the Greek parties - not much about friendship or philanthropy or enhancing the college experience. Not that parties aren't a part of Greek life, but they're certainly not all there is to it!
And there are lots of schools not on that list that have Greek membership much higher than 15%.
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05-22-2002, 02:11 PM
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Ohio University was on Princeton Review's Top Party Schools list for years as well. I'm sure the university administration breathed a sigh of relief when OU didn't make that list this year.
The real question in my mind is how do you quantify things for either list?
There's no logic that I can find.
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05-22-2002, 05:51 PM
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It's always been my understanding that DePauw's Greek system comprises such a huge percentage of the student population because they don't provide housing after freshman year, and it's easier to get a space in a Greek house than an apartment in town. Anyone from DePauw know if this is true??
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05-22-2002, 08:59 PM
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Greek life
I know that most all of the students at TCU in Ft. Worth are Greek. Being a private school the numbers still don't compare to something like UT Austin per say.
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05-22-2002, 09:07 PM
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Saying that almost all of the TCU students are greek is completely untrue. They do have a strong greek system, but it is nowhere near "almost all".
I went to SMU (#20) for a year and a half and you could have a life without being greek, but you would still get invited to crush parties, etc. So greek life really did play a big part there.
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05-22-2002, 09:11 PM
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interesting...
I guess I had to reply
I am VERY shocked that neither Indiana University or Purdue University made the list. Both schools have decent greek percetanges (20% of IU's 37,000 students are greek) and very stronge systems. True the university officials have been cracking down but that doesnt necessarily make a greek system/life weaker does it?
I wonder what the criteria was for ranking the schools.
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05-22-2002, 09:16 PM
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This is what I heard from the grapevine dzsaigirl. My apologies.
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05-22-2002, 09:28 PM
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Re: dzsaigirl
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This is what I heard from the grapevine dzsaigirl. My apologies.
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I think you are both right...just depends on how you look at it. I thought I had seen stats for TCU's Greek system somewhere, but all I could find was the following (from their DG chapter site):
Facts about TCU's Greek Community:
39% of TCU's student body is Greek
67% of the Orientation staff is Greek
66% of Frog Camp Staff is Greek
63% of the Chancellor's Leadership program is Greek
70% of the House of Representatives is Greek
76% of Student Foundation is Greek
65% of Mortar Board is Greek
So, even though Greek's at TCU are not the majority, they seem to be pretty darn visible! Also, TCU has a pretty large commuter population, so it's quite possible that Greeks are the majority when it comes to traditional students. Would be interesting to see more of a breakdown.
A highschool acquaintance went through rush at TCU (over 10 years ago, mind you), and she said with few exceptions, almost everyone in her dorm rushed. That would be nice if it were true everywhere....
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05-22-2002, 10:13 PM
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When I was at SMU, I was one of two people on my floor who did not rush. They had Rho Chi meetings by floor, in the floor lounge and I would just stay in my room...The girl next door was the other non-rushee and we had a contest one time to see who would turn their stereo up the loudest during Rho Chi meeting! We got bitched out, needless to say
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05-23-2002, 12:07 AM
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I really like reading about "top Greek schools" and the percentages of Greeks on campus, because my school (Stanford) is really the opposite. While we have our fair amount of GLO's and BGLO's, it is by no means a greek-controlled school. There are those who are totally into it, but for most of us, there are so many other activities going on in other Row houses, theme houses, and dorms that campus life is always busy and fun. But we also only have 6500 undergraduates total, so we are not nearly as big as other schools. And last but not least, most of us also are so loaded down with classes that we really have to make time to enjoy the outside activities (but somehow we do!)
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05-24-2002, 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by KappaStargirl
It's always been my understanding that DePauw's Greek system comprises such a huge percentage of the student population because they don't provide housing after freshman year, and it's easier to get a space in a Greek house than an apartment in town. Anyone from DePauw know if this is true??
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I didn't go to DePauw, but a very good friend of mine did her freshman year (then she transferred). I remember her saying that greek life was all there was to do in the small town, and that the average % of greek students was about 80% of the entire student body.
I know she lived in a dorm her freshman year, and was going to be sharing an on-campus house with friends her sophomore year (before deciding to transfer), but she never said the greek system was big due to housing issues.
It's just huge there and always has been I guess
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05-24-2002, 06:10 PM
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I used to know a woman who went to Depauw, she'd been an Alpha Chi there (it is our Alpha chapter, she never let us forget!) and I always figured that since two of the largest sororities nationally were founded there (AXO and Theta) that greek life would just naturally be big.
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05-27-2002, 01:50 AM
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I'm really surprised Miami University, Oxford isn't on the list. Whenever I tell someone I am trying to transfer there they say, "Oh greek life is huge there." This one guy I met in a bar (who didn't know I was greek) told me that he went to school there and he said, "Yeah, it's a really great school but everything's about the greeks. It's okay if you're into that I guess." I didn't bother telling him I was.....didn't want to make him feel like an idiot and have to apoligize to me for an hour.
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