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04-02-2010, 07:04 PM
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And thank you all for the discussion, however few of you actually answered my original question.
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In all honesty, I think we have given all of the info and advice possible. Simply put: there are no guarantees in recruitment, so we cannot really tell you what your odds are - black, white, or whatever.
Your question brought some interesting thoughts on the issue of race in predominately white groups/Greek systems and spurred an interesting conversation.
I think you should go for it, if it is something you would like to pursue. If you don't, you will always wonder. Best of luck and keep us posted this fall.
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04-02-2010, 08:03 PM
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And thank you all for the discussion, however few of you actually answered my original question.
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What kind of answer are you expecting? A precise statistical probability?
There are non-white members in several, but not all, NPC sororities at the University of Texas. You may fit in with a chapter. You may not. We don't know you nor the membership selection criteria of all chapters so how can you possibly think we can give you any kind of evaluation of your chances?
Go through recruitment. You either get a bid or you don't. You won't know the answer to your question until bid day. The end.
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04-02-2010, 09:12 PM
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the simplest answer:
the average minority will always have a harder time getting a bid at a southern school versus the average caucasian. that's just how it is
i don't know your stats/ecs/connections though, so you may have a much better chance that the "average minority"
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08-17-2010, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by sunnygirl2
the simplest answer:
the average minority will always have a harder time getting a bid at a southern school versus the average caucasian. that's just how it is
i don't know your stats/ecs/connections though, so you may have a much better chance that the "average minority"
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I disagree strongly since it's such a general statement. On some campuses it is not harder at all. It depends on the campus. I can definitely think of a few where it probably is extremely hard, but I also know of a few where it doesn't seem to make a difference. (In other words, that's an overly simplistic answer and isn't true for all schools in the south.)
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Am I glad I rushed? Sure, it was still a good experience, and I did get to meet a lot of new people that way, even though there was clearly something fishy going on there. Would I recommend that you rush? If you want to, go for it. Just be aware that there's a good chance you won't get in because you're Indian.
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You do not know whether or not your race was the reason you didn't get a bid.
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08-18-2010, 10:21 PM
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I disagree strongly since it's such a general statement. On some campuses it is not harder at all. It depends on the campus. I can definitely think of a few where it probably is extremely hard, but I also know of a few where it doesn't seem to make a difference. (In other words, that's an overly simplistic answer and isn't true for all schools in the south.)
You do not know whether or not your race was the reason you didn't get a bid.
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Well, yes, I do not KNOW. But I am fairly sure. By philanthropy day, I only had 3 sororities invite me back, and two of them were ones that I had cut already. That early on in recruitment, I feel like there is no other reason to be cut from that many.
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08-18-2010, 10:24 PM
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Well, yes, I do not KNOW. But I am fairly sure. By philanthropy day, I only had 3 sororities invite me back, and two of them were ones that I had cut already. That early on in recruitment, I feel like there is no other reason to be cut from that many.
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There are many reasons to be cut, even that early, and especially during a competitive recruitment. You don't know why you were cut.
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08-18-2010, 10:48 PM
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There are many reasons to be cut, even that early, and especially during a competitive recruitment. You don't know why you were cut.
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Well, hopefully that's the case. The only other reason I can think of is because I'm not from a big city, but even then I find it odd that they would cut me that early for just that reason, don't you?
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04-04-2010, 02:48 PM
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My daughter's school has a VERY competitive recruitment. I have read here that it is like the SEC. But we aren't in the south and I suspect, a bit more used to integration. I will say upfront that I don't know how many African American, Asian and Hispanic women started recruitment. I do know that, in my daughter's pledge class there is diversity. (Oh wait, my daughter is Jewish, which when I went through being Jewish was an automatic drop.) I really didn't check out the girls based on that fact, I just know that I have seen lots of girls on the Row (not just my daughter's house) who are minorities.
So, things change, hopefully now for the better. You never know until you try.
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04-04-2010, 06:05 PM
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yea, I was dealing with this issue, esp what Munchkin03 was saying to some extent back in 1991, but in Arizona, don't think I would've gone through NPC rush at a Texas, SEC or southern school....um no.
The majority of my high school community was Caucasian/Hispanic/Asian and of course my familial community was majority Af. Am.
I just felt more comfortable doing NPC rush and I will also say that while I was very aware of NHPC, but clueless about their process and I wanted an immediate community of "friends" via the sorority. I was young, kinda dumb (as most 19 yo) and away from home for the first time.
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08-16-2010, 01:59 PM
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"If you're that hypersensitive about color and don't have a sense of humor, don't pledge out of your race." - Dr Laura Schlessinger
.....wait, wrong thread?
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08-16-2010, 02:01 PM
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"If you're that hypersensitive about color and don't have a sense of humor, don't pledge out of your race." - Dr Laura Schlessinger
.....wait, wrong thread?
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Oh, come on. Don't go all NPHC on me.
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08-16-2010, 02:05 PM
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Oh, come on. Don't go all NPHC on me.
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"black people do it all the time. Go to an HBCU, listen to a black student, and all you hear and see is...."
that's what she said ^^^^
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08-16-2010, 03:57 PM
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If you're as hot as Dilshad Vadsaria (see: Rebecca Logan from Greek), than yes.
edit: Just realized she's Paki. Maybe you are SOL.
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08-16-2010, 04:11 PM
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If you're as hot as Dilshad Vadsaria (see: Rebecca Logan from Greek), than yes.
edit: Just realized she's Paki. Maybe you are SOL.
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K_S and DS funny > EW funny
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08-16-2010, 04:17 PM
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If you're as hot as Dilshad Vadsaria (see: Rebecca Logan from Greek), than yes.
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Truer words have never been spoken...
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