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Senusret I · #1 02-21-2010, 08:07 PM

Wow.

knight_shadow · #2 02-21-2010, 09:55 PM

Slight hi-jack:

I've seen several threads/posts about non-D9 organizations stepping (and how said organizations don't understand the origins of it, etc).

Is the feeling the same when AAs in non-D9 organizations step?

(I don't recall seeing any threads talking about this. If anyone is aware of any, I'll do a more in-depth search).

Senusret I · #3 02-22-2010, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Slight hi-jack:

I've seen several threads/posts about non-D9 organizations stepping (and how said organizations don't understand the origins of it, etc).

Is the feeling the same when AAs in non-D9 organizations step?

(I don't recall seeing any threads talking about this. If anyone is aware of any, I'll do a more in-depth search).

For me, I consider an African American introducing stepping to their non D9 chapter (and the chapter embracing it) to be more organic than the chapter being taught it from non-members. Others will surely disagree, but they don't matter.

DrPhil · #4 02-22-2010, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I

For me, I consider an African American introducing stepping to their non D9 chapter (and the chapter embracing it) to be more organic than the chapter being taught it from non-members.

I agree.

All things in moderation. If that African American member then tries to transform the chapter (and perhaps eventually the organization) into a BGLO, it may be a case of what people sometimes suspect of some African American members who join non-BGLOs--wookin' fo wub n all da wong pwaces.

APhiQuetieACE · #5 02-22-2010, 02:18 PM

1) So, what about the fact that AKAs taught ZTA how to step??

2) I do agree that the Tau Chapter of AKA had a better show.

3) I also agree that the choice of judges was bogus.

DrPhil · #6 02-22-2010, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by APhiQuetieACE

1) So, what about the fact that AKAs taught ZTA how to step??

Already discussed.

ETA: As my dear friend says "I'm not opposed to non-NPHC teams stepping (because it's become more accepted over the years). I'm opposed to NPHCers teaching them how to step." You want to step? Do what many young step teams have to do. FIGURE IT OUT ON YOUR OWNNNNNNNN.

rhoyaltempest · #7 02-22-2010, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by APhiQuetieACE

1) So, what about the fact that AKAs taught ZTA how to step??

2) I do agree that the Tau Chapter of AKA had a better show.

3) I also agree that the choice of judges was bogus.

And I'm hearing that they teach them to step every year in preparation for a scholarship stepshow (not just 16 years ago) and are no doubt pretty pissed right now. If this is true, then I bet they'll discontinue this little tradition...LOL!

PsychTau · #8 02-22-2010, 11:17 AM

That looks like a small venue for "National Step Championship". I envisioned something larger.

BluPhire · #9 02-22-2010, 05:09 PM

I guess we so far away from our "pledge" process that we forgot what excuses are.

I don't care how they won, the fact of the matter is they won. As a step team priority one is to make sure your show is tight that it will overcome gimmicks. Everybody who has stepped in a show knows that you gonna run into a gimmick that is more flash than substance. (Like I saw somebody post earlier about their show being so 90's because it was technical. I mean we are stepping not auditioning for America's next dance crew) Your job as a team is to prep. Does that mean you still might lose to the gimmick? Yeah, it happens. Just grin and bear it and be thankful that your show was crisp.

rhoyaltempest · #10 02-22-2010, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BluPhire

I guess we so far away from our "pledge" process that we forgot what excuses are.

I don't care how they won, the fact of the matter is they won. As a step team priority one is to make sure your show is tight that it will overcome gimmicks. Everybody who has stepped in a show knows that you gonna run into a gimmick that is more flash than substance. (Like I saw somebody post earlier about their show being so 90's because it was technical. I mean we are stepping not auditioning for America's next dance crew) Your job as a team is to prep. Does that mean you still might lose to the gimmick? Yeah, it happens. Just grin and bear it and be thankful that your show was crisp.

Hey...watch it. I'm a 90's stepper and IMO we stepped better back then...more precision, less hype, less theatrics, just stepping non-stop. Yeah, bring back 90's stepping and I might start going to more stepshows.

BluPhire · #11 02-22-2010, 05:24 PM

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Hey...watch it. I'm a 90's stepper and IMO we stepped better back then...more precision, less hype, less theatrics, just stepping non-stop. Yeah, bring back 90's stepping and I might start going to more stepshows.

Exactly what I'm talking about. What I saw ZTA do (though not as precise) was take it back there. Yeah the gimmick was old, but guess what they hit the mark. And that's all they needed to do because they had the other gimmick going for them. As a step team you gotta plan for that.

It's like when Jordan played, he never got the fouls...and the person covering him knew that as well, so you gotta adjust.

I'm a 90's stepper as well and I can't wait till we get back to stepping again.

DrPhil · #12 02-22-2010, 07:21 PM

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Yeah the gimmick was old...

Then, you did get my point. Thank goodness.

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Originally Posted by BluPhire

And that's all they needed to do because they had the other gimmick going for them

We noticed.

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Originally Posted by BluPhire

I'm a 90's stepper as well...

U-N-I-T-Y

BluPhire · #13 02-22-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

Then, you did get my point. Thank goodness.

We noticed.

U-N-I-T-Y

Yeah that is the point I am making. I'm not trying to start any beef on the net so I apologize if I quoted you out of context.

I still stand by though that as plain as the ZTA show was (done and overdone like we both said done in the 90's) it was up to the others to step up.

rhoyaltempest · #14 02-22-2010, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DrPhil

Then, you did get my point. Thank goodness.

We noticed.

U-N-I-T-Y

OMG...Stop!!! How about we had an intro to that? It was 1994 or 1995 I believe. We had these sequence (sp.?) vests with the colors of all the D9 orgs to show Unity; couldn't believe we found those, got them at Macy's. We won too (won the year before too but...don't wanna brag) . LOL!!!

DrPhil · #15 02-22-2010, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BluPhire

I don't care how they won, the fact of the matter is they won.

Then you are too far away from your "pledge" process.

I'm sure your prophytes didn't allow you to piss on them and claim that it's rain. All things are not equal for the sake of equality. If a BGLO team wasn't that great, but just greater than those that sucked, we'd say exactly that and spare the rainbow pissing ponies.

ETA: As for your response to my comment about the 1990s-ish routine, you completely missed what I was saying. It wasn't technical because it was 1990s steps. It was technical because they are (some) dancers and cheerleaders who had the technical and mechanics of the steps down pact. It was 1990s because that entire routine has been done before by various BGLO teams since the 1990s. @ rhoyaltempest: I am also a (late) 1990s stepper who recognized all of those as old steps from before and during my college days.