Gun toting mom found dead - Page 3

deepimpact2 · #1 10-09-2009, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg

I know plenty of people in PA that packed heat ALL THE TIME.

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lol I know people in NY and NJ that do the same.

agzg · #2 10-09-2009, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2

lol I know people in NY and NJ that do the same.

The people I know in NY don't pack heat because they can't fit their 12 guage into a holster.

We's a huntin' people. You get a shot gun for your 15th birthday around my parts. Not a lot of handguns though.

deepimpact2 · #3 10-09-2009, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by agzg

The people I know in NY don't pack heat because they can't fit their 12 guage into a holster.

We's a huntin' people. You get a shot gun for your 15th birthday around my parts. Not a lot of handguns though.

lol Yeah that's kind of how it is around here.

Kevin · #4 10-09-2009, 09:37 PM

One half-page about the article so far.

2 1/2 pages about DI's butthurtedness.

DaemonSeid · #5 10-09-2009, 09:37 PM

exactamundo.

Thank you agzg!

DaemonSeid · #6 10-09-2009, 09:40 PM

sigh....ok...not 'shock' but 'you' never heard of that before.

and 2...for the love of God, Kevin was not referring to you...the 'you' he referred to was the people of Leba frickin' non, PA.

deepimpact2 · #7 10-09-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

sigh....ok...not 'shock' but 'you' never heard of that before.

and 2...for the love of God, Kevin was not referring to you...the 'you' he referred to was the people of Leba frickin' non, PA.

I had never heard of HER situation before. That's not really shock.

And 2...whether you think I'm being ridiculous or not, he was including me in that. He knows it as well. And he's an idiot for doing so. But that just means that now I am free to make sweeping generalizations about him without him being able to get offended. Wonderful.

DaemonSeid · #8 10-09-2009, 09:41 PM

NOW....can we get back to the fact that her personal protection didn't save her from her hubby???

Kevin · #9 10-09-2009, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

NOW....can we get back to the fact that her personal protection didn't save her from her hubby???

It could have had she been carrying when she was attacked...

deepimpact2 · #10 10-09-2009, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

NOW....can we get back to the fact that her personal protection didn't save her from her hubby???

And that means what?

I don't know what level of abuse was going on in the household, but I'm sure she felt that her need for personal protection was against OUTSIDE forces...NOT members of her own household. I'm not sure why some people don't see it that way. From some comments I have read on various blogs and editorial pages, it is almost as if people are mocking her decision to carry a gun in light of the fact that her husband shot her. His craziness has nothing to do with her decision to pack heat.

KSigkid · #11 10-09-2009, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by deepimpact2

And that means what?

I don't know what level of abuse was going on in the household, but I'm sure she felt that her need for personal protection was against OUTSIDE forces...NOT members of her own household. I'm not sure why some people don't see it that way. From some comments I have read on various blogs and editorial pages, it is almost as if people are mocking her decision to carry a gun in light of the fact that her husband shot her. His craziness has nothing to do with her decision to pack heat.

In my experience people are, in general, on pretty extreme ends of the spectrum when it comes to gun possession.

That said, even though it isn't common around my area, I'm not going to judge someone who has made the decision to carry a weapon. I'm not in their shoes, and if they can carry it safely, more power to them.

deepimpact2 · #12 10-09-2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KSigkid

In my experience people are, in general, on pretty extreme ends of the spectrum when it comes to gun possession.

Yes, they are. I respect the fact that some people don't like guns. They are entitled to feel that way. What I hate is being excessively criticized by those same people because I DO pack heat (concealed). I don't do open carry because the open carry laws here are absurd. I just can't risk not being able to take the bar because someone wants to call the police if they see me with my gun on my hip.

ETA: I don't think the concealed carry laws here are all that great either.

DaemonSeid · #13 10-09-2009, 09:49 PM

He was not.

Kevin has no frame of reference to call you a northeasterner when teh story itself says that this happened in Pennsylvaina which is ...where?

DaemonSeid · #14 10-09-2009, 09:55 PM

Now that we are back on that....this is the irony that Phill mentioned earlier

DrPhil · #15 10-09-2009, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid

Now that we are back on that....this is the irony that Phil mentioned earlier

Precisely.

It is relatively uncommon to be victimized by a complete stranger. People who pack weapons for protection are unlikely to "need" the gun at all (unless they have quick tempers or use guns as a FIRST resort); and are more likely to "need" the gun as protection against a family member, friend, or acquaintance.

I ask gun carriers why they feel they need it (beyond "it's my right!!!") and who they think they'll need it against.

This is just a reminder that you're more likely to be sleeping with the enemy, so keep your heat on you even after you get home. I'm jokingly serious, but this woman probably knew she was in a dangerous relationship and that she and/or her husband ("victim" and "offender" aren't always easily determined) had homicidal and suicidal tendencies.