Recruitment at Southern Mississippi - Page 3

USMAnchorGirl · #1 08-10-2009, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueCarnation

2.0? Wow.

Well, 2.0 to participate, but most chapters have higher standards (so I guess having that min. doesn't really solve much, huh). You have to have a 3.0 to pledge Delta Gamma. I'm not sure how hard and fast other chapters stick to their minimum GPA though.

Have you all heard about using a core GPA instead of a cumulative? There doing that with high school grades this year for freshmen coming through recruitment. They only release girls' grades from their core courses (math, english, history, etc...not sure exactly what subjects it includes, but it excludes electives) to the chapters. Because of this the chapters are having to think a bit differently about what their GPA means because electives usually inflate their GPA.

USMAnchorGirl · #2 08-09-2009, 09:56 AM

And to TupeloHoney, your niece sounds like the kind of girl that any chapter at Southern Miss would love to have! I'm sure she has two great chapters left, and I hope she has a great time at skit today. The positive thing about the new release figures is that (usually) no girls get released from the system. However, because the biggest chapters have to release a lot of girls early because of the new system, it is hard on the chapter members too when they have to release PNMs that they would otherwise have kept around longer and gotten to know better. The new system seems to always work out well in the end, but it can be heartbreaking to both PNMs and the chapters in the beginning. It's hard to narrow down the list with so many great girls! Best of luck to your niece!!

FSUZeta · #3 08-09-2009, 01:09 PM

maybe they knocked the ball out of the park on their SAT's?

Titchou · #4 08-09-2009, 01:17 PM

Perhaps. But if it's down to her with the C and high SAT and Patty PNM with a 3.8 and the same SAT, guess who gets the invite.

BlueCarnation · #5 08-09-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Titchou

Perhaps. But if it's down to her with the C and high SAT and Patty PNM with a 3.8 and the same SAT, guess who gets the invite.

I guess I'm missing something, but I don't see a problem with this. I would be worried about "C" being able to keep up.

Then again, I don't think we had a GPA requirement for our sororities. There was no need.

Also, don't most of the recruitment booklets list the minimum GPAs that are needed for each sorority, both for hs and college? Isn't there some responsibility for the PNM to look at that and say "Hmm...I have a 2.5. Maybe I'm only going to be able to possibly pledge 2 houses?"

Psi U MC Vito · #6 08-09-2009, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueCarnation

I guess I'm missing something, but I don't see a problem with this. I would be worried about "C" being able to keep up.

Then again, I don't think we had a GPA requirement for our sororities. There was no need.

Also, don't most of the recruitment booklets list the minimum GPAs that are needed for each sorority, both for hs and college? Isn't there some responsibility for the PNM to look at that and say "Hmm...I have a 2.5. Maybe I'm only going to be able to possibly pledge 2 houses?"

What seems to be being said is this. If all the individual chapters have their chapter GPA requirements, then the school should stop people from going true recruitment if they are below that. Lets say the GPA requirments for all teh chapters is a 3.o, then you can't recruit if you are below that. But what if some are at 2.5 and some are at 3.o, then you can't go through recruitment if you have less then a 2.5.

BlueCarnation · #7 08-09-2009, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Psi U MC Vito

What seems to be being said is this. If all the individual chapters have their chapter GPA requirements, then the school should stop people from going true recruitment if they are below that. Lets say the GPA requirments for all teh chapters is a 3.o, then you can't recruit if you are below that. But what if some are at 2.5 and some are at 3.o, then you can't go through recruitment if you have less then a 2.5.

I do get what people are saying; I'm not misunderstanding this at all. I just think that when it's laid out for you in your materials, it's not the school's responsibility, it's yours. How is Panhel to know that you aren't lying about your GPA on your application? We had a girl lie about her legacy info because she wanted to be in XYZ so badly--it happens. We didn't have time to check all 1200 girls going through to make sure all their info was accurate before they went through. At some point, you have to realize these are 18 year old adults.

KSUViolet06 · #8 08-09-2009, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueCarnation

How is Panhel to know that you aren't lying about your GPA on your application? .

I think that most schools require HS transcripts for the freshmen. I am pretty sure mine does.

OleMissGlitter · #9 08-11-2009, 04:15 PM

Do you think maybe they just had a "bad" recruitment. I have seen fabulous PNMs at Ole Miss who have been released because they were just having a bad day or they didn't impress the sorority member who picked them. Believe it or not there are PNMs with awesome grades, great looks, personality, etc who just don't impress. I hate to be negative but it does happen. Also, isn't this the first Formal Recruitment since Kappa Alpha Theta left USM? I know after ZTA left Ole Miss in 1999, recruitment in fall 2000 was rather strange because of having one less sorority.

Ole Miss suggests this: "***You must have a final, cumulative GPA of 2.5 or higher to register for Recruitment (This does not guarantee placement with a 2.5 GPA)"

OleMissGlitter · #10 08-11-2009, 04:23 PM

TupeloHoney a friend who is a Pi Phi advisor she said 37 New Members?!?!?!

sigmaceli · #11 08-09-2009, 02:18 PM

BabyPink, it never got raised? Are you kidding me? I thought for sure it would happen the year after we graduated.

I'm surprised, considering the disparity in GPA requirements (2.2 for one group to a 3.2 for another) causing the heavy cuts we were seeing. I understand that the NPC Manual of Information states that the Campus Panhellenic cannot raise or lower the GPA to keep members' rights secure, but I would have thought that the Office of Fraternity and Sorority Life would have set up the GPA increase they'd talked about for many moons.

momof2girls · #12 08-09-2009, 02:25 PM

No she is not leaving USM. They have to leave immediately if they are released from the process. They stay in a dorm for the recruitment events. They have freshman week next week. She will be back but did mention to her mom that several girls that were released will not be coming back to the school at all.

KSUViolet06 · #13 08-09-2009, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by momof2girls

No she is not leaving USM. They have to leave immediately if they are released from the process. They stay in a dorm for the recruitment events. They have freshman week next week. She will be back but did mention to her mom that several girls that were released will not be coming back to the school at all.

That is so unfortunate.

I hear it's rough when rush is before school because you LIVE it that entire week (because there's nothing else going on).

Questions (because I'm curious):

What happens for the girls who drop out of USM entirely? Like, if someone were to leave school due to recruitment, what would they do? Do they just go home and apply to other schools for spring? I mean, it's too late at that point to go to any other school. Is it somehow considered more socially accpetable in some towns to NOT be in school than to NOT be Greek?

I have a hard time getting my mind around leaving school due to recruitment. My parents would have skinned me alive if I had shown up on their doorstep a week before school starts saying I'm not going because of recruitment.

My heart does go out to them though, it's got to be tough.

BlueCarnation · #14 08-09-2009, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

That is so unfortunate.

I have a hard time getting my mind around leaving school due to recruitment. My parents would have skinned me alive if I had shown up on their doorstep a week before school starts saying I'm not going because of recruitment.

My heart does go out to them though, it's got to be tough.

I agree with you, but I am wondering if in the South the pressure is a lot different? I don't know, I'm asking. I do know of girls at Indiana that dropped out of school completely when they did not receive a bid. My parents would not have allowed me to drop out of school; you go to college to get a degree, and anything you do above that is icing. I loved my sorority experience, but all of this seems a bit much to me. My university had over 500 clubs and organizations. Surely there are other things that these girls can do, and their worth is not defined by being in a sorority. If these girls are given the message that they shouldn't be at a school because they don't join a sorority, that's pretty sad. My heart goes out to them too, and not because they got cut.

USMAnchorGirl · #15 08-09-2009, 04:31 PM

To Twilight Mom: I don't think anyone ever answered your question, but if I missed it, sorry for the repeat. The girls can go to a maximum of four parties on skit day and two parties on pref night.