Fairly shocking admissions news from UT - Page 2

Munchkin03 · #1 03-09-2009, 10:39 PM

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Oh well, he is currently still in the top 10% (despite his freshman B, his GPA is 4.49 and he is ranked at around 6%), he just has to finish this year with no B's while he is taking AP Physics, AP Calculus, AP English, AP US History, Spanish III, Journalism (he's the sports editor), and Football.

Yeah, that's clearly a kid who "couldn't hack getting into his state school with everyone else, and should maybe spend a year (or two) in community college"

Your son sounds like a good student, but many many other kids in the country have similar or superior track records, and many many of them don't get into their first choice schools. Again, admission into a school--even your state's flagship university--is owed to NO ONE.

Perhaps I'm more harsh about this than others would be, but I do a lot of work in college admissions, so I meet a lot of kids with impeccable records who get their hopes dashed every year and end up going to a school whose bumper sticker doesn't look as good on the back of the family SUV, but they're happy with. It all ends up working out. Really. It does.

UHDEEGEE · #2 03-09-2009, 11:31 PM

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Again, admission into a school--even your state's flagship university--is owed to NO ONE.

It is in the State of Texas if you graduate from a Texas high school within the top 10% of your class...it's the law.

Munchkin03 · #3 03-10-2009, 07:52 AM

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It is in the State of Texas if you graduate from a Texas high school within the top 10% of your class...it's the law.

Look, I understand it's the law that you're guaranteed admission to a public school in Texas. It's the law in Florida too.

That does NOT mean that any student in the top 10% is entitled to get into UT-Austin and only UT-Austin.

You're guaranteed admission to any public school within the Texas system--which doesn't that include any and all UTs, A&M, and other state schools? I understand that there's a huge demand for UT-Austin because it's an excellent school, but still. My original point still stands. Just because you do well, the best school in your state isn't owed to you--a public school is. Remember, not every state with a great public university system can guarantee this!

I also understand why the law was instituted--since the Hopwood decision eliminated traditional affirmative action in the 5th District, they had to come up with a way to admit a diverse class. To that end, it has worked. UT is far more diverse both racially and socioeconomically than it was 10 years ago. More high schools are represented than pre-1998, and academic performance has improved, since the 10% admits do better in college than the others.

KSigkid · #4 03-10-2009, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Your son sounds like a good student, but many many other kids in the country have similar or superior track records, and many many of them don't get into their first choice schools. Again, admission into a school--even your state's flagship university--is owed to NO ONE.

Perhaps I'm more harsh about this than others would be, but I do a lot of work in college admissions, so I meet a lot of kids with impeccable records who get their hopes dashed every year and end up going to a school whose bumper sticker doesn't look as good on the back of the family SUV, but they're happy with. It all ends up working out. Really. It does.

I don't think it's harsh at all, I think it's just the reality of the process.

srmom · #5 03-09-2009, 05:32 PM

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It might simply come down to the fact that UF and UT-Austin may end up like UVa and Berkeley in that admission isn't guaranteed to everyone from that state who applies.

The LAW in TEXAS is that they HAVE to guarantee admission to anyone in the top 10% who wants to go to UT-Austin - SO they can't ever be like UVA or Berkeley who can choose their new students by using a combination of GPA, Rank, Standardized Test Scores, Rigor of highschool curriculum, extra-curriculars, essays, etc.

That is my point!!! That there are better ways to choose the makeup of the incoming class, and that due to the Texas legislated laws, they have no discretion in their choice - it all comes down to ONE FACTOR - class rank!!!

UHGEEDEE, yeah, it's pretty pathetic when that is even a consideration you have to make - in our case it would have been to put him in one of the other publics where the turnover rate is 100% from fall to spring because they are all chasing the "Free Rents" at the area apartment complexes, so they move from school to school!

Senusret I · #6 03-10-2009, 08:39 AM

Who wants to go to public school anyway? *barf*

knight_shadow · #7 03-10-2009, 08:40 AM

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Who wants to go to public school anyway? *barf*

Senusret I · #8 03-10-2009, 08:57 AM

LMAOOOOOOOO

My school had crosses, beeeeeyatch!

aopirose · #9 03-10-2009, 11:23 AM

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LMAOOOOOOOO

My school had crosses, beeeeeyatch!

Yeah, but was it founded by a Saint?

Senusret I · #10 03-10-2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by aopirose

Yeah, but was it founded by a Saint?

No.

aopirose · #11 03-10-2009, 11:37 AM

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No.

That's OK. I still love ya, but mine was founded by a Saint.

MexicanMami0286 · #12 03-10-2009, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Senusret I

LMAOOOOOOOO

My school had crosses, beeeeeyatch!

Mine too!

Senusret I · #13 03-10-2009, 11:43 AM

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Mine too!

Loyola?

MexicanMami0286 · #14 03-10-2009, 04:15 PM

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Loyola?

LOL! Just putting me on blast! Yup, that was me.

Where were you?

Senusret I · #15 03-10-2009, 04:22 PM

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LOL! Just putting me on blast! Yup, that was me.

Where were you?

I'm familiar with Mu Psi so I just assumed -- I'm from Georgetown