What are the top 5 national Fraternities according to size?

[SLOTheta]

I believe a copy of every NPC and IFC fraternity's Pledge book and Ritual book is in the Library of Congress, all except Sigma Chi. I was shocked when I heard this!

[SAEalumnus]

Actually, Sigma Chi's is there too.

http://catalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebr...22045829&SID=4

LC Control Number: 50029107
Type of Material: Book (Print, Microform, Electronic, etc.)
Brief Description: The Norman shield.
[Evanston, etc., Ill., Sigma Chi] [n.d.]
v. illus., ports. maps. 24 cm.


CALL NUMBER: LJ75 .S44
Copy 1
-- Request in: Jefferson or Adams Bldg General or Area Studies Reading Rms
-- Status: Not Charged

[Corbin Dallas]

Actually, none of them are. Check out http://mcrae.ca/greek/docs/loc.htm

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Steve Corbin
Lambda Chi Alpha
Theta Kappa Chapter
Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech.

[SAEalumnus]

Corbin,

Upon a closer inspection of my post, you'll notice that I quoted directly off of the Library of Congress web directory. The book about Sigma Chi I identified is their pledge manual, not their ritual book. I'm very well aware of the myth about every/some ritual books being there, but thanks for your reply. I believe most, if not all, pledge manuals in fact are in the Library of Congress. The call number for Sigma Chi's is given in my post just above yours.

[Corbin Dallas]

Originally posted by SAEactive:
Corbin,

Upon a closer inspection of my post, you'll notice that I quoted directly off of the Library of Congress web directory. The book about Sigma Chi I identified is their pledge manual, not their ritual book. I'm very well aware of the myth about every/some ritual books being there, but thanks for your reply. I believe most, if not all, pledge manuals in fact are in the Library of Congress. The call number for Sigma Chi's is given in my post just above yours.

Ok, I clicked the link and it said the page was expired. I didn't go to the trouble to figure out which SX book it was. Yeah, I'd say all pledge manuals are in the LOC, because they don't have anything in them that you wouldn't want a non-brother to know.

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Steve Corbin
Lambda Chi Alpha
Theta Kappa Chapter
Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech.

[33girl]

joe1897 -

As much as I love Crows (and I do) there's no way they are among the biggest nationally. They only have about 50 chapters.

[SLOTheta]

Originally posted by SLOTheta:
I believe a copy of every NPC and IFC fraternity's Pledge book and Ritual book is in the Library of Congress, all except Sigma Chi. I was shocked when I heard this!

The Norman Shield is NOT the Ritual book, you can even buy it on Ebay...Sigma Chi's Ritual book was supposedly stolen from the Library of congress, just an old story I heard.

[moe.ron]

Crows? I thought they were only in the North East. I doubt they are among the top 10.

[Corbin Dallas]

Originally posted by SLOTheta:
The Norman Shield is NOT the Ritual book, you can even buy it on Ebay...Sigma Chi's Ritual book was supposedly stolen from the Library of congress, just an old story I heard.

Again, there are no ritual books in the LOC. If there are any, then it's something like DU that's not even secret. I'd heard the whole story too, about how ours was the only one not in the LOC, because Truman was pres. at the time. check out the link i posted above for the whole story.

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Steve Corbin
Lambda Chi Alpha
Theta Kappa Chapter
Rose-Hulman Inst. of Tech.

[SAM12588]

Man some of you people make me sick. It's sad how people are so impressed with numbers and statistics instead of the real spirit of a fraternity.

It doesn't matter which organization you join. In the end, you only can join 1. You can't try them all out once being a brother so it's pretty stupid to honestly think outside of statistics that you are truely greater than another. You might as well start comparing races and thinking "Hmmm well there are less jews out there than christians so christians are better, yay!".

The college I go to Sigma Alpha Mu is the best. We do the most on campus, we have some of the most quality guys, I wouldn't ever pick another fraternity if given another chance. I think some of the best experiences in college happened with them and I wouldn't ever take anything back.

There is TKE, Sigma Chi, KA, SAE and even at some point Kappa Sig. Kappa Sig's colony died. SAE doesn't compare to our chapter. TKE is good, they are great guys but the involvement we have with campus and the way we do things has been proven to be better.

Sigma Chi is brand new, they are doing good but in no way are they the same type of men as SAMS. The things they do don't develop character nor prove you fufill being a true man like a SAM. Maybe at other colleges its different. I dunno, I personally don't care because im not a Sigma Chi.

Sigma Alpha Mu has 60 chapters. Reason being is that it's founded as originally being Jewish. Trying to market that is hard. Especially in the south. SAM dominates at colleges like FIU, Texas, Rutgers, Indiana, West Florida, Cornell, etc.

Pretty much every fraternity is good in specific colleges. PIKE is amazing I heard at FIU. PIKE got kicked out of UCF, potentially UF and even UWF. I think the award to the most hazing incidents ever was SAE. If you count the number they had it's probably the most. Either way, it happens. You have bad organizations, you have good.

Statistically, SAM is weak. Statisically Sigma Chi, SAE, PIKE, TKE and Sigma Phi Eplison are the best. I really dont care. I love my fraternity, and that's what actually counts in the end. Im sure SAM will grow over the next 20 years. I'm not worried. Because what we produce is quality and even if that's limited to where and when, it's all that counts in my opinion.

Not to mention, at least I know at my college SAMs are trustable and great people. Facualty and Staff like us. Girls like us. Most commities are ran by us. That IMO is a win for some organization that statistically looks bad.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by SAM12588

Man some of you people make me sick. It's sad how people are so impressed with numbers and statistics instead of the real spirit of a fraternity.

It's also a bit sad when someone starts going off on 8-year-old (or older) posts, very few of which actually related size to quality (some specifically said the two have nothing to do with each other), and most of which were posted by people who haven't been seen here in ages.

[FSUZeta]

Originally Posted by MysticCat

It's also a bit sad when someone starts going off on 8-year-old (or older) posts, very few of which actually related size to quality (some specifically said the two have nothing to do with each other), and most of which were posted by people who haven't been seen here in ages.

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[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by SAM12588

Man some of you people make me sick. It's sad how people are so impressed with numbers and statistics instead of the real spirit of a fraternity.

It doesn't matter which organization you join. In the end, you only can join 1. You can't try them all out once being a brother so it's pretty stupid to honestly think outside of statistics that you are truely greater than another. You might as well start comparing races and thinking "Hmmm well there are less jews out there than christians so christians are better, yay!".

The college I go to Sigma Alpha Mu is the best. We do the most on campus, we have some of the most quality guys, I wouldn't ever pick another fraternity if given another chance. I think some of the best experiences in college happened with them and I wouldn't ever take anything back.

There is TKE, Sigma Chi, KA, SAE and even at some point Kappa Sig. Kappa Sig's colony died. SAE doesn't compare to our chapter. TKE is good, they are great guys but the involvement we have with campus and the way we do things has been proven to be better.

Sigma Chi is brand new, they are doing good but in no way are they the same type of men as SAMS. The things they do don't develop character nor prove you fufill being a true man like a SAM. Maybe at other colleges its different. I dunno, I personally don't care because im not a Sigma Chi.

Sigma Alpha Mu has 60 chapters. Reason being is that it's founded as originally being Jewish. Trying to market that is hard. Especially in the south. SAM dominates at colleges like FIU, Texas, Rutgers, Indiana, West Florida, Cornell, etc.

Pretty much every fraternity is good in specific colleges. PIKE is amazing I heard at FIU. PIKE got kicked out of UCF, potentially UF and even UWF. I think the award to the most hazing incidents ever was SAE. If you count the number they had it's probably the most. Either way, it happens. You have bad organizations, you have good.

Statistically, SAM is weak. Statisically Sigma Chi, SAE, PIKE, TKE and Sigma Phi Eplison are the best. I really dont care. I love my fraternity, and that's what actually counts in the end. Im sure SAM will grow over the next 20 years. I'm not worried. Because what we produce is quality and even if that's limited to where and when, it's all that counts in my opinion.

Not to mention, at least I know at my college SAMs are trustable and great people. Facualty and Staff like us. Girls like us. Most commities are ran by us. That IMO is a win for some organization that statistically looks bad.

HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHA

Quote from one of my favorite anti-hazing videos:

SAMMY SAMMY THEYRE EVERYWHERE, THEYRE EVERYWHERE, SAMMY SAMMY

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by SAM12588

Man some of you people make me sick. It's sad how people are so impressed with numbers and statistics instead of the real spirit of a fraternity.

I think it's sad when someone comes on a message board and resurrects an old post, just to trash a bunch of other fraternities. Congratulations - you're a credit to your organization.

[pshsx1]

Originally Posted by SAM12588

...truely...im....Statisically...Eplison...trustab le...Facualty...commities....

None of those are words.

Especially not "trustable."