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Old 02-19-2009, 05:18 PM
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Obama's people even had trouble with Biden, but it didn't seem like they had as much trouble as McCain's people.
To get on my favorite horse, I'd chalk this up to the role the media played. Sure, Biden was old news or whatever KSigkid told me to explain it. But surely Cheney is too now, and I still read more about his nefarious schemes to get Libby a pardon than I do about Biden.

What's Joe been up to? Anyone know?
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Old 02-19-2009, 05:22 PM
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What's Joe been up to? Anyone know?
He shows up on Pundit Kitchen like every other day.

The man needs to stop making crazy faces.

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Found Him. Apparently ordering penis-enlarging pills.


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Old 02-19-2009, 06:15 PM
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I think it's a mixture of both but the McCain campaign did hang her out to dry.

Ultimately, because they chose her as his running-mate, it was their responsibility to ensure that she was well prepared for every interview and that the toe the line as far as what to say and what not to say.

Obama's people even had trouble with Biden, but it didn't seem like they had as much trouble as McCain's people.
Prior planning prevents poor performance

I said this awhile ago about Palin, there were waaaay too many variables for that to have been an effective strategy for success on an already shaky platform

Now if Jindal is to be the next up in line for runing for president, the GOP has 4 years to see what he is doing now for LA, as well as vet him to see if he will be able to do what McCain wasn't able to do.

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I think you're probably at least partially right, but it seems like there was at least a little more strategy involved. This view ("bringin' in the womens" as it were) was popular speculation at the time, but as inept as McCain's camp was in the "small-picture" stuff, I'd be shocked if they made this poor of a "big-picture" maneuver - it seems much more likely that Palin was intended to motivate the base with someone who could play both "attack dog" and "snake charmer" while McCain reached across the aisle for moderates. Sort of a "good cop/bad cop" thing, with the added bonus that the bad cop would be what most "common" American males would consider attractive. Remember: attractiveness matters.

It seems like this plan was not so much ill-conceived as ill-executed, since Palin went absolutely balls-to-the-wall beyond what I think McCain envisioned (and the Newsweek piece seems to back this up). She got off the leash, as far as what the McCain camp expected.
Again something else I stated a while back...don't forget PUMA.

I stated once before the was an "Oooh look at me, I got a girl" vibe from McCain when they brought in Palin and the way that it showed like the GOP didn't know her as well as they claimed that they did also was ANOTHER reason why the McCain camp faltered.
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