Little Miss Perfect/Toddlers and Tiaras

[CubbieBlue]

"I can buy some cheese dip." Best line of tonight's episode.

[IrishLake]

Awww, I missed it!

[FSUZeta]

i know-i keep forgetting it too. does anyone know if they come on a second time?

[IrishLake]

I think they do over the weekend. I'll have to DVR it.

[Jill1228]

I have finally watched an epi thanks to TLC On Demand

Originally Posted by IrishLake

"I'm not really embarrassed when Olivia yells, hits and throws a fit because she's still young and it's still kinda cutesy."

Um, no. Your 3 year old needs her bottom smacked.

The mama needs to be smacked! When Olivia said "I see it, fool" to her mama, I was like
Oh. HELL. naw! I wish I WOULD talk to my mama like that. She'd beat me like I owed her money

Don't get me started on flat ironing and coloring the horse. I was too through

Originally Posted by CubbieBlue

That child was terrifying. And Haley's dad needs to come out of the closet.

Word! To quote Love Actually: "He's gayer than a maypole"
To quote Seinfeld "not that there's anything wrong with it"

Now to download the other epis...

[FSUZeta]

I'm confused as to why Baylen won Queen when she didn't do anything on stage BetteDavisEyes

me too!(and i am not being factious)-could it be rigged?

[FSUZeta]

i am so surprised that my brother and sister in law did not put their only child, a daughter, in these pageants when she was younger. she participated in dance and gymnastics, and when recital time rolled around, the owner of the dance/gymnastics school had the kids sell ads in the recital program and various prizes and trophies were awarded based on the $ amount of ads sold. my brother and sil bragged every year that my niece had "sold" the most ads and won the biggest trophy, when in reality(something their lives were lacking at the time) they had sold the ads for their daughter and she got some tacky, big a** trophy. same mentality as the pageant parents.

[Optimus Prime]

I can't stand Eden's mother but I was glad to see her being kind to Eden's hairdresser when she was about to have a meltdown. I was expecting her to lose her mind on the poor woman.

[BetteDavisEyes]

Originally Posted by Optimus Prime

I can't stand Eden's mother but I was glad to see her being kind to Eden's hairdresser when she was about to have a meltdown. I was expecting her to lose her mind on the poor woman.

Maybe it's just my mind playing tricks on me but wasn't her hairdresser & the other blonde lady also on previous episodes showcasing their daughters?


I'm so going to look for that facebook page. This I gotta see.

[Xidelt]

Does anyone else think MaKenzie is going to grow up to be a really manipulative woman? She can change her mood in an instant! She goes from being a little weirdo (telling her rolling suitcase to "hush") to screaming at her mother to being a little on-stage charmer.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by Xidelt

Does anyone else think MaKenzie is going to grow up to be a really manipulative woman? She can change her mood in an instant! She goes from being a little weirdo (telling her rolling suitcase to "hush") to screaming at her mother to being a little on-stage charmer.

That was beyond funny...I hope she was only being silly talking to that suitcase...lol! I can't stand the bratty tantrum throwing mood that some of the girls display but it's not their fault. Overall I will never be comfortable with little girls wearing so much make-up and fake hair and focussing on a perceived standard of beauty.

[nolesgirl]

Has anyone seen Dance Moms yet? Its on Lifetime and only a few episodes have aired

I feel so bad for the dancers! Not only are their moms awful stage moms, but their dance teacher is an emtionless yelling machine!!

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by nolesgirl

Has anyone seen Dance Moms yet? Its on Lifetime and only a few episodes have aired

I feel so bad for the dancers! Not only are their moms awful stage moms, but their dance teacher is an emtionless yelling machine!!

I saw the one where the Broadway scout came.

I kept wondering how a woman who looks like she's hiding Rosanne Barr (and John Goodman, too) under her clothes can be a dance instructor??? How can you teach if you can't demonstrate anything? Also, her just expecting the moms to take care of things (like decorating props) and then getting pissed when the moms haven't stopped their own lives to support their daughter's dancing hobby is ridiculous. She even got pissed because one woman refused to do the "Mom dance" (who does that anyway?) at the recital because she was graduating with her doctorate that day.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

I saw the one where the Broadway scout came.

I kept wondering how a woman who looks like she's hiding Rosanne Barr (and John Goodman, too) under her clothes can be a dance instructor??? How can you teach if you can't demonstrate anything? Also, her just expecting the moms to take care of things (like decorating props) and then getting pissed when the moms haven't stopped their own lives to support their daughter's dancing hobby is ridiculous. She even got pissed because one woman refused to do the "Mom dance" (who does that anyway?) at the recital because she was graduating with her doctorate that day.

I was thinking the same thing when I started watching it but after a few episodes now, it's apparent that it's her studio and she's a choreographer not an instructor. So the girls learn their dance techniques from the ballet, tap, and jazz instructors at the studio but they go to her for choreography and since the kids learn the actual terminology for the dance moves (and she's adamant about this), she just tells them what moves to do and they know to do them.

As a former child dancer myself (without the stage mom thing, it wasn't that serious) I can relate to the show but yeah I don't get why she wouldn't want to get fit and be able to demonstrate her choreography; she has to yell so much because she can't SHOW them the moves. I've seen choreographers and instructors that weren't stick figure thin but never like her. I'm guessing that at one time she was a fit dancer (not necessarily thin) since she said she was a child dancer and I think she said her mom was a dancer also and owned a studio.

Also I just wanted to mention that for the dance studio and the moms, this is not a hobby. They want the girls to get into schools like Juilliard and/or go on to broadway. They want them to be professional dancers. The question is do the girls want this? The little ones don't know yet but the lead dancer (can't think of her name) does I think; she's really good. The ones that end up being professionals have definitely been working at it since they were very young. I also think some of the moms want to live vicariously through their girls since they quit dance when they were young.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

Also I just wanted to mention that for the dance studio and the moms, this is not a hobby. They want the girls to get into schools like Juilliard and/or go on to broadway. They want them to be professional dancers. The question is do the girls want this? The little ones don't know yet but the lead dancer (can't think of her name) does I think; she's really good. The ones that end up being professionals have definitely been working at it since they were very young. I also think some of the moms want to live vicariously through their girls since they quit dance when they were young.

As a mom, this is where I struggle. I would love to get my kids into something that they could translate into something (professional dancer, Olympic gymnast, concert pianist, professional baseball player, etc), but how do you know what to put them in without overloading them to figure out what that thing would be? I know a few things are out: My daughter likes dancing, but she doesn't have the natural grace and she's probably going to be quite tall (which also kicks out gymnastics). She likes music, but one minute thinks she'd like to play the harp, flute the next, piano the next. As a musician, I realize that many skills transfer, but the focus is obviously not there. My son has actually shown some aptitude for gymnastics, but is not great at following instructions (he's 4, so he still has time to grow out of that). I feel like if I'm going to get them into something NOW is the time, but I don't want to shove them into something just for the sake of it.