Is chivalry dead?

[Zetaphied]

For a lady to get upset by a guy being polite to her is ridiculous. I don't guys should turn things like that off and on. If you were raised to be a gentleman, than always be one, for the ladies that don't appreciate them, that just shows that perhaps their level of class isn't that great.

[undacuva22]

Hello all I know that it has been a while since I posted any replies but its nice to see that we are still on this topic......

I do agree with Zetaphied!!!! I think that in this society somehow the idea of women being liberated has been taken in all the wrong ways!!!! I simply mean this, yes it is great to be a women and independent doing your own thing, but how can you get upset if a guy wants to pull out your chair for you or open doors, I think that when men do things like that, it further adds to your depictions and persona as a woman. You are being recognized as that and that should make you feel damn good!!! pardon the french!!!! I have recently noticed that men are more inclined to treat a woman how she acts, yes it is true that all women should be respected I understand that but if you dont respect yourself than how can you expect a man to respect you let alone open doors and pull out chairs? Being liberated and not wanting a man to do things for you is nice and all but if you are truly a liberated woman you will know when a man is pulling out you chair and being chivalrous towards you he is only further classifying you as such so I dont think women should back down from such kindness. As always this is not law its just my opinions but I hope that what I have is helpful..!!!

[BabyBlue91]

I had to bump this ... a woman called the Tom Joyner Morning Show today and commented that men won't even yield their seats to pregnant women (even though signs on buses/trains encourage people to do this!). Tom responded that older men needed to get back in the groove, and to teach younger men to do the same.

[FeeFee]

Originally posted by BabyBlue91
I had to bump this ... a woman called the Tom Joyner Morning Show today and commented that men won't even yield their seats to pregnant women (even though signs on buses/trains encourage people to do this!). Tom responded that older men needed to get back in the groove, and to teach younger men to do the same.

I can clearly recall the time that I was pregnant with my daughter over 5 years ago. Whenever I was offered a seat, at least 60% of the time it was offered by ANOTHER WOMAN!!! I would see a lot of men with their heads down - don't know if they wanted to pretend that they did not see me with the obvious "baby belly" poking out.

On a happier note, I'm glad to say that my fiance has no problems opening doors, pulling chairs for me, helping me put my jacket or coat on. If we are riding an elevator, he makes sure that every woman has exited the elevator before he even thinks about stepping off. When we are walking down the street, he always make sure that he is on the outside of the sidewalk (he would always say, "You're not for sale") And he has no problem giving up his seat on the subway for a woman (not a teenager, but a grown woman), and it doesn't matter if she is pregnant, elderly or whatever.

[Eclipse]

I'm glad to see that so many folks appreciate and practice chivalry. Question though....why shouldn't men give up their seats to teenage girls? I think it's good practice for them to see how they should be treated.

[Koss28]

It's good to see that chivalry is not dead, well, not completely dead. I was taught to how to respect women. I just think that some women take this independent woman phase a little far. I know a lot of guys that now second guess if they should show chivalry or not because of past relationships where the woman would tell the guy chivalry is dead (or the I don't need a man syndrome).