SPRING RECRUITMENT AT UGA

[peaches321]

No songs? How do you do this with everyone participating and not have ANY songs?
How does the limiting the number of actives participating work? Just curious.

[kiteflyerzl]

Each chapter can have 50 actives present if I remember correctly. It's up to the chapters to figure out how they pick the 50.

[KSUViolet06]

Originally Posted by kiteflyerzl

Each chapter can have 50 actives present if I remember correctly. It's up to the chapters to figure out how they pick the 50.

Interesting. So, is this requirement in place for all of the spring recruitment events (no more than 50 actives)? Like, at EVERY event chapters can have no more than 50 members?

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by kiteflyerzl

Each chapter can have 50 actives present if I remember correctly. It's up to the chapters to figure out how they pick the 50.

Isn't that just a bit... odd?

[SWTXBelle]

Odd as in different - yes. But I wish NPC would consider having a quota of rushers - so often smaller chapters struggle in recruitment because as soon as the door opens pnms are confronted with a much smaller group of actives. The question for them is too often "What's wrong with them?", and it leads to problematic tent talk.

If there were a set number (perhaps determined by the number of pnms divided by the number of sororities, factoring in the number of parties per round?) of active recruiters - wow. It would enable all chapters to compete on an even playing field.

[notyouraverage]

I think it sounds like a great thing. I've never understood how actives managed to juggle deferred recruitment with class and labs and homework and other clubs and organizations. This means (potentially) not every girl will have to be present for every event. Maybe some gcers with deferred recruitment can explain how it's supposed to work?.. I just can't imagine my usual workload on top of recruitment - I had a hard enough time with fall bid day!

[lauralaylin]

Originally Posted by honeychile

Isn't that just a bit... odd?

It is common amongst modified recruitments. I've never heard of it occurring at a recruitment as large as UGAs, but considering that it's a smaller rush this spring than their usual fall recruitment, I can see it happening.

[Fleur de Lis]

Recruitment at Vanderbilt is now one week only, with half the week before classes start.

[Kansas City]

The chapter I advise is at a small D2 state school so I assume that UGA would be even more competitive and have a larger spring recruitment. Another concern of mine about limiting the number of actives during recruitment is this:
We have to release significant PNMs after the first day thanks to the RFM. I understand that there is a certain level of trust that sisters have when making decisions to release PNMs (many decisions can be made based on black and white issues such as year in school, grades, etc.) but having only a small fraction of the chapter meet women on one day seems like it would be unfair to both the PNM and the chapter as there would be so few people who got to meet the PNM before a decision had to be made. At least by having more actives in the room, they can gauge body language or recognize a face as "that girl that sat behind me in church" and potentially give the PNM a better shot at finding a home because she had more exposure (albeit silent) to the entire chapter and not just a small cross section of those selected to recruit.

[SWTXBelle]

Originally Posted by Kansas City

The chapter I advise is at a small D2 state school so I assume that UGA would be even more competitive and have a larger spring recruitment. Another concern of mine about limiting the number of actives during recruitment is this:
We have to release significant PNMs after the first day thanks to the RFM. I understand that there is a certain level of trust that sisters have when making decisions to release PNMs (many decisions can be made based on black and white issues such as year in school, grades, etc.) but having only a small fraction of the chapter meet women on one day seems like it would be unfair to both the PNM and the chapter as there would be so few people who got to meet the PNM before a decision had to be made. At least by having more actives in the room, they can gauge body language or recognize a face as "that girl that sat behind me in church" and potentially give the PNM a better shot at finding a home because she had more exposure (albeit silent) to the entire chapter and not just a small cross section of those selected to recruit.

Of course, the whole reasoning behind recs and getting the pnms information before recruitment is to find the girls actives already know - "that girl that sat behind me in church". And if actives are in the room, odds are they are busy with their pnms, and not taking notes on girls they can see but not even necessarily identify. As it stands now, most recruitments require the entire chapter to vote on a pnm based on the input of the very limited number of actives who had a chance to talk to her. PNMs, too, have to make a choice based on their limited interaction with a few members. That's the reality, whether the whole chapter is actively rushing or not.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

Of course, the whole reasoning behind recs and getting the pnms information before recruitment is to find the girls actives already know - "that girl that sat behind me in church". And if actives are in the room, odds are they are busy with their pnms, and not taking notes on girls they can see but not even necessarily identify. As it stands now, most recruitments require the entire chapter to vote on a pnm based on the input of the very limited number of actives who had a chance to talk to her. PNMs, too, have to make a choice based on their limited interaction with a few members. That's the reality, whether the whole chapter is actively rushing or not.

If we're talking about the idea of limiting rushers for formal just as a theoretical strategy:

we should keep in mind that with more than 1000 PNMs at UGA for formal and the nature/quality of the photos girls send in, I'm not sure the chapter really does always completely recognize everyone they know in real life until the actual parties. And unless you're talking about limiting the number of rushers to under what it would take to single rush, there are girls who wouldn't be busy with PNMs who can float and met girls, but there'd be triple this number if you didn't limited rushers.

I understand your point about the issues of MS at large recruitments, but I'm not sure that limiting rushers wouldn't make the problem even worse.

For informal, I don't think it's a big deal and with the relatively small size of the PNM pool might actually keep it from being awkward and overwhelming for the PNMS. I suspect they will still have actual conversations with the same number of members they would have in formal.

[SWTXBelle]

I don't think it would be needed, or work, at every campus. I do think there are situations where it would, and one thing I like about NPC offering different kinds of recruitment is the idea that different campuses needed different approaches. I just think limiting rushers would be one possible approach to help some chapters at some campuses.

[Kansas City]

Originally Posted by SWTXBelle

I don't think it would be needed, or work, at every campus. I do think there are situations where it would, and one thing I like about NPC offering different kinds of recruitmentis the idea that different campuses needed different approaches. I just think limiting rushers would be one possible approach to help some chapters at some campuses.

This I can agree with. I recognize that this is a UGA thread but my concerns are obviously for my D2 campus. Rush is not competitive and recs are very few and far between when recruiting girls at my campus so there is no way for most of the chapter to know who is coming that door until they hear a name or see a face. Until the first party, there is very little intorduction of a PNM to chapters on my campus. I'm not totally opposed to NPC offering different kinds of recruitment ideas to solve problems on different campuses but just don't see how limiting the number of active members would assist on my particular campus where the recruitment environment is smaller (300-350 PNMs during formal) and very non-competitive. Instead, in my situation, I think that it would benefit both the chapter and the PNM to meet each other as much as possible.

[FSUZeta]

thanks ksuviolet06...you rock!

[carnation]

Okay, the pms I got suggest that recs were supposed to have been saved from fall but you can't count on it so if you know a PNM who's rushing again, check with the chapters or write a new one. I guess the Carnation rec machine will be springing into action again...