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Old 11-02-2008, 10:35 PM
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Why are people so much more comfortable with the *state* or the *local government* controlling them than the *federal government*?
I have never understood this. What is the difference between the feds being in control and the states being in control? Does having the state be in control make you feel more comfortable? Why?


IASK and DeepImpact,
Also, I really wish that the electoral college idea would just go away. Essentially, if there are only a few outliers, the one person-one vote method works all the same, and majority rules. The problem with the electoral college is that the votes afforded to a state are in some cases not apportioned according to the population of the state relative to other states. For example, there is no way that the states like Montana and South Dakota should get the number of votes that they get - if we are simply going by population. This is, to me, really a problem b/c small states have an inappropriately large influence on the election of the President. I say, to heck with the electoral college voting process. If we can count all of the votes in each state to determine whether the state is going to go blue or red or another color, then we ALREADY have counted everyone's vote (theoretically). So why not just add up everyone's vote and let the popular vote rule? Makes sense to me.

BTW, Georgia might go BLUUUUUUUUUUE!!!!!!!
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I see where you are coming from on this, and on the surface I would agree with you. The problem is, that there is too much opportunity for the government to abuse this to serve their own selfish ends and incite propaganda to the public through needless fearmongering. Hate crime laws do make it crime to act on initial thoughts. The problem is, all too often, the government intervenes when it appears that someone MIGHT perpetrate a hate crime based on some random frivolous detail, thus making it a crime to think such thoughts.

It is for this reason, I am against the Patriot Act, Homeland Security, and TSA, because they promote and perpetuate this very same line of reasoning, except it's under the guise of "the boogey man" is out to get us that they conveniently label as "terrorism", be it through Bin Laden, Al Queda, or some other elusive monster the government tries to brainwash us to fear.



You are correct on this point, he is indeed again making MLK day a FEDERAL GOVERNMENT RECOGNIZED holiday. Now he is not against the state or local government recogizing MLK as a holiday.



That is also correct, because again, that put the federal government in charge of us, instead of us in charge of the federal government. Now if affirmative action was legislated on a state by state basis, he would definately be okay with that.

We put too much on the federal government to legislate what should be legislated at the state, county, and local levels, and it is for this reason that our nation is in the fouled up state of affairs that it is in. We need to stop relying on the federal government to baby us, breastfeed us, and hold our hands from cradle to grave and learn how to be self-sufficient while co-existing in a free market economy.

The Civil Rights Act may ultimately prove to be a moot point, as our civil LIBERTIES are slowly being taken away through all these government-sanctioned Executive Orders and rogue lawmaking "acts". So why argue about someone voting against federally-mandated civil rights acts when the federal government as a whole are making subsequent laws that ultimately takes your civil rights away? That makes no sense.



This issue is a thread in itself, but to say the least, he voted for the Patriot Act, one the most radical series of laws that ultimately serve to strip you of your civil rights and civil liberties, and makes you a slave to the federal government. The Hurricane Katrina fiasco served as a testament to that (and a dry run of what we can expect from the federal government in the future). Obama also voted for the war in Iraq and will most likely keep the war continuing. I have heard NOTHING about him planning to bring the troops home.



Oh, I agressively weigh the candidates' stance on the issues to my personal belief system. I am just not using factors such as probability of being elected and the school of popular opinion, and how well they can wow and audience, and all that other superficial nonsense.

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Old 11-02-2008, 02:31 PM
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This is a poor attempt to miseducate the masses of people. I hope that the American public realizes this and continues to move forward with making a CHANGE in our country. I am appauled at this last-ditch effort and consider it a hit below the belt.

McFool needs to realized that this does not take away from the fact that his own campaign is riddled with contraversy over his poor choice for VP.
ITA! I mean seriously...if people based our character on that of the actions of my family members, much less someone that is the half-sister of the dad whom I've only met maybe one or twice....goodness gracious, I don't think we'd have anyone in office. Heaven knows I wouldn't be able to run for student body president - some of my family is ummm "unique".
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