McCain booed after trying to calm anti-Obama crowd - Page 3

Munchkin03 · #1 10-13-2008, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Benzgirl

Even when McCain told Ms. Quinnell to her face that her statement was not true, she still didn't believe him.

Even after the rally, ol' Fanny Pack insists that he is a Muslim terrorist that will do "bad" things. She can't say what they are specifically, but they're "bad."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YLbwntBO_k

Here's one of a guy who brought a Curious George plush toy to a rally, calling it "Little Hussein."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKUov...eature=related

Of course, both sides are equally culpable. A college classmate of mine was quoted on a fairly popular satire site calling Trig Palin a "retard." That was despicable and crass--just as bad, in my opinion, as calling Obama "Curious George."

agzg · #2 10-13-2008, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Here's one of a guy who brought a Curious George plush toy to a rally, calling it "Little Hussein."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKUov...eature=related

Oh Johnstown, PA - what more needs to be said? I'm sure those of us on GC that are from or have lived in that area aren't very surprised by that guy.

UGAalum94 · #3 10-13-2008, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Benzgirl

I can't blame the internet on all people, such as the two that took the mic in Minnesota. I blame pure ignorance and the fact that some people just don't want to believe their statements are wrong and defamatory. Even when McCain told Ms. Quinnell to her face that her statement was not true, she still didn't believe him.

Some people were born with the "dumb gene".

ETA: So what is wrong with Arabs anyway? I have many friends who are from Arabic nations and they are not terrorists. They come from all religions, as well.

Yeah, Ann Althouse has a kind of funny comment on that. McCain is obviously responding to the "terrorist" commenting hatefulness at previous rallies, but when you look at what she actually said in this instance, it's not really in need of the defense McCain gives.

It'd be a reach to accurately describe Obama as Arab even though there's some Arab influence in Kenya, but what the women actually said is not the sentiment that McCain is responding to.

Benzgirl · #4 10-13-2008, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94

It'd be a reach to accurately describe Obama as Arab even though there's some Arab influence in Kenya, but what the women actually said is not the sentiment that McCain is responding to.

Honestly, when McCain grabbed the mic from the woman, I got the feeling he was trying to prevent the election rally from turning into a KKK Gathering. You could see he was aghast and embarrassed at what was said. Whatever he was responding to (Ms. Quinnell, the man who spoke before her, or the terrorist chants), he didn't want to be part of it.

What I find more amazing are the clips on You Tube of Ms. Quinnell after the rally. She sounds a little more like "aliens will abduct me if Obama is elected" than "I have facts that he is an Arab". How much you want to bet, the McCain campaign has found a way to prevent her from additional damage.

UGAalum94 · #5 10-13-2008, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Benzgirl

Honestly, when McCain grabbed the mic from the woman, I got the feeling he was trying to prevent the election rally from turning into a KKK Gathering. You could see he was aghast and embarrassed at what was said. Whatever he was responding to (Ms. Quinnell, the man who spoke before her, or the terrorist chants), he didn't want to be part of it.

What I find more amazing are the clips on You Tube of Ms. Quinnell after the rally. She sounds a little more like "aliens will abduct me if Obama is elected" than "I have facts that he is an Arab". How much you want to bet, the McCain campaign has found a way to prevent her from additional damage.

I agree. There's just a little unexpected comedy in defending people against the accusation of being Arab.

I have to say though, I don't think that McCain or Palin have really said anything themselves to incite this particular reaction.

Linking Obama to Ayers who everyone pretty much has to admit did, at least at one point, advocate domestic terrorism isn't the same as suggesting that Obama is some kind of Muslim Jihadist, which is what the nuts are latched onto.

I think the point in linking him to Ayers it to show how far left he is. Ayers is not a centrist kind of guy. But the nuts are taking it in a different direction when they hear terrorist.

I really don't think the Ayers stuff was supposed to be a code for this craziness. And I don't fault McCain or Palin for the ignorance of some of the people at their rallies.

Benzgirl · #6 10-13-2008, 11:17 AM

Even after the rally, ol' Fanny Pack insists that he is a Muslim terrorist that will do "bad" things. She can't say what they are specifically, but they're "bad."

I love her response, "It's a long story"

AOII Angel · #7 10-13-2008, 12:35 PM

The McCain/Palin campaign is playing with fire. I hope they teach future politicians a lesson that this kind of tactic is just too dirty to work. I'd be so embarrassed to have my name tied to any of those exploits!

CrackerBarrel · #8 10-13-2008, 09:05 PM

Yeah... I'm kind of lost on this one too.

The criticisms of Obama coming from the Republican party are for hanging out with a crazy WHITE guy. How exactly is this so racially awful?

If the criticisms were for Wright (which would also be valid in my opinion) then you could at least have an excuse (albeit a bad one, IMO, the guy's a racist himself) for playing the race card, but this is dumb.

If you really want to talk about hurting race relations, some of the things Obama has said in the past himself could do more harm than anything the official republican party is doing now.

agzg · #9 10-13-2008, 09:18 PM

I was talking promises in terms of the "Kill him" and "Lynch him" comments.

I know they're nutjobs - but often it only takes one nutjob, you know? By no means are they the entire McCain supporter demographic, but still... I haven't heard people saying similar things about McCain. I might be wrong on that one, though... mainstream media is generally less forgiving when Obama is attacked.

Oh, and the comedienne who said that about Palin? That was a dumb move. It was right to drop her from that benefit, obviously. Joking about gang rape doesn't really jibe with an anti-violence against women group.

Leslie Anne · #10 10-14-2008, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin

To say that McCain's supporters 'typically' believe this tripe is about as accurate as saying that most Democrats are too stupid to use a butterfly ballot.

Where are you getting this? I never said this is a typical McCain supporter reaction. It's not. It's just the nutjobs that both parties have. Please don't put words in my mouth.

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94

Sandra Bernhard said some crap about Palin getting gang raped by her black brothers if Palin came to Manhattan, and Bernhard got dropped from a violence against women benefit as a result.

I wasn't aware that Palin is getting rape threats. That's truly disgusting. I still think you're missing my point though. It seems that all of these threats flying around aren't phasing you. Things have gotten really ugly. If you don't see it, fine.

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Originally Posted by UGAalum94

I don't expect Obama to say anything nor do I consider it a reflection on him really, but I'm not sure that Leslie Ann's "well at least she's not getting death threats because if it" is actually accurate. Palin's getting rape threats and I wouldn't be surprised by death threats. People out there are nuts.

I have to say though, I don't think that McCain or Palin have really said anything themselves to incite this particular reaction.

I think the point in linking him to Ayers it to show how far left he is. Ayers is not a centrist kind of guy. But the nuts are taking it in a different direction when they hear terrorist.

I really don't think the Ayers stuff was supposed to be a code for this craziness. And I don't fault McCain or Palin for the ignorance of some of the people at their rallies.

See this is where we differ. Palin repeating the word "terrorist" at rallies in relation to Ayers has spawned the actions of the nutjobs. I don't believe for a second that the McCain camp didn't actually count on the fact that the loonies out there would start thinking that Obama was the terrorist.

I just think that's wreckless and that was the entire point of my original post. The link to the video showed McCain saying nothing in response to the person who shouted "terrorist." I give him credit for correcting people now though.

AGDee · #11 10-14-2008, 08:19 AM

Excellent Campbell Brown piece:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/...ama/index.html

UGAalum94 · #12 10-16-2008, 07:04 PM

http://www.timesleader.com/news/brea...nfounded_.html

Granted this is about a new charge, rather than the Florida one, I think.

LightBulb · #13 10-17-2008, 09:48 AM

Jon Stewart did a piece the other day about McCain as Dr. Frankenstein and his rallygoers as the monster. It includes the clips from the beginning of the thread.

Here's the full Daily Show episode for when you get a chance.

Munchkin03 · #14 10-17-2008, 10:36 AM

GOP Women's group leader issues "Obama Bucks," a fake food stamp with Obama...along with some Kool-Aid, watermelon, KFC, and ribs.

Apparently the black members of the group ripped her a new one, but she says it was "just a joke."

http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/s...6.3d67d4a.html

ASTalumna06 · #15 10-17-2008, 04:29 PM

I'd also like to add that this entire process has been dragging for so long that people are looking for anything and everything to keep it interesting. With negative ads, debates that are uneventful and less than inspiring, and speeches being interupted by insane protestors, I am so anxious for this thing to just be over. And I'm sure the rest of the country is, too.

I'd also like to say that if either candidate wins, I'm worried. And not because one is going to die (because of an assassination or a heart attack, or whatever other reason everyone is coming up with), but because I don't believe these attacks and comments are going to end. The only difference is, if Obama wins, the people who were against him at the McCain speeches will show up at events featuring him, and vice versa. I think that either way, each candidate is going to have difficulties rallying the entire country behind him following the November election.