Out of state pnms

[lawgal]

The link doesnt work for me.

[irishpipes]

Originally Posted by Army Wife'79

lawgal I was so curious about this last year I asked Irish Pipes if she could do her computer magic and break them (Auburn's) down by state and by group. She did and most OOS'ers were from nearby states. Maybe she'll do it again this year after AU posts it's lists with the hometowns listed.

Auburn results by chapter, by state, are in the Auburn recruitment thread.

[AlphaXi_Husky]

It didn't work for me either. But if you go to the homepage and use the search function (type something like "OSU sorority") you should be able to get the list as one of the results and view it that way.

I saw a lot of Texas and Kansas, plus one Florida and one Illinois, but most were from OK.

[Titchou]

Last year, something like 45% at Alabama were from out of state. I don't have the exact stats any more. The large state schools get a lot of out of state students so I don't think that simple fact of being out of state is a negative. The sponsor form is the key in these situations. I fell into both categories as I lived in state but had attended boarding school out of state for high school. That one fact may have helped me as everyone wanted to know what it was lke to go to boarding school! At least they remembered me.

[exlurker]

Maybe this will work?

http://www.stillwater-newspress.com/...225113435.html

Anyway, it's from the August 12, 2008 Stillwater (OK) News-Press, so that paper's site can probably be searched if need be.

Originally Posted by AlphaXi_Husky

It didn't work for me either. But if you go to the homepage and use the search function (type something like "OSU sorority") you should be able to get the list as one of the results and view it that way.

I saw a lot of Texas and Kansas, plus one Florida and one Illinois, but most were from OK.

Originally Posted by exlurker

Maybe this will work?

http://www.stillwater-newspress.com/...225113435.html

Anyway, it's from the August 12, 2008 Stillwater (OK) News-Press, so that paper's site can probably be searched if need be.

The link works, but it's kinda hard to read.

Looks like they just copied and pasted from the .xls

[SWTXBelle]

I thought I heard somewhere that Alabama was making a concentrated effort to attract more out-of-state students - if true, that would also explain some of the stats.

As far as what the statistics mean, remember the three kinds of lies - lies, damn lies, and statistics. I think they are very interesting, but I would hesitate to write anything in stone about them without including some subjective analysis.

[irishpipes]

Oklahoma State results by state:

Oklahoma - 378
Texas - 101
Kansas - 20
Arkansas - 6
California - 3
New York - 3
Missouri - 2
Illinois - 2
Colorado - 1
Florida - 1
Georgia - 1
Tennessee - 1
North Carolina - 1
New Mexico - 1
Nevada - 1
Arizona - 1

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

Oklahoma State results by state:

Oklahoma - 378
Texas - 101
Kansas - 20
Arkansas - 6
California - 3
New York - 3
Missouri - 2
Illinois - 2
Colorado - 1
Florida - 1
Georgia - 1
Tennessee - 1
North Carolina - 1
New Mexico - 1
Nevada - 1
Arizona - 1

I doubt there'd be any stats on this, but I'd love to see how many total PNM's went through broken down by state as well.

For Universities surrounding Dallas (Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, notably) Texas isn't all that much of an "out of state" thing. Most of the girls coming up here have 6 or 7 friends in sororities as it is.

[irishpipes]

Very true. The chapter I advise at Arkansas has many, many Texas girls. Arkansas has some program that students from adjoining states get in-state tuition if they score a 25 (I think that's right) or more on their ACT.

I know in Tulsa we have a large number of kids going to Arkansas every year to take advantage of that program. The ones I know this year, without exception, have said they qualified for more scholarship money at Arkansas than they could get at OSU or OU.

[Zillini]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

Very true. The chapter I advise at Arkansas has many, many Texas girls. Arkansas has some program that students from adjoining states get in-state tuition if they score a 25 (I think that's right) or more on their ACT.

Really? That's a huge incentive to adjoining state out of state students.

[breathesgelatin]

Originally Posted by Zillini

Really? That's a huge incentive to adjoining state out of state students.

Especially ones affected by the top 10% rule at UT, who went to prestigious/rich high schools and are say in the top 15% of their class, and consequently can't get into UT.

[chioalum]

My daughter recently completed recruitement at Southern Miss. We are from Virginia. Most of the other out of state girls were from Alabama and Louisiana. When she entered recruitment she didn't know anyone attending USM and had only encoutered a few of the sorority members at tables during orientation. We worked to get her two recs from each sorority on campus. I am also a very active alum of Chi O so it was easier for me to obtain recs for my daughter as many of my friends are in the sororitites on campus. She was immediately cut after the first day by DG, Pi Beta Phi and Phi Mu. The next round of parties she attended KD, DDD, Chi O and ADPI, four houses for philanthropy day and attended the same round of four parties for skit day. She then was cut down to only one pref party. I just returned from moving the rest of her dorm essentials and she did tell me that most of the girls going through recruitment knew some of the sisters already in the house. She made it to one of the final four that is considered for taking most of the local girls. I was very proud of her accomplishments and although she has tried to remain positive with her ultimate choice, I think she is still dissapointed in the final outcome. She is giving it a try and for this I admire her. She also stated that some of the girls had attended some pre partiesin the spring. I think it was essential for her to have those recs otherwise she would have gotten cut harder from the beginning because they didn't know her. She was also very prepared with questions and apprpriate dress. Although I have heard Southern Miss isn't considered competitive. I felt in the end it was. I have a friend whose duaghter is atteding Alabama from Virginia she is a four time legacy to one chapter and her mom is on the executive board. I will keep you updated on this girls progress at Alabama.

[momof4girls]

Originally Posted by irishpipes

Arkansas has some program that students from adjoining states get in-state tuition if they score a 25 (I think that's right) or more on their ACT.

Any Texas student that applies to a public state school in Oklahoma, Louisiana, or Arkansas can get their out-of-state tuition waved if they score at least 25 ACT or 1090 SAT. They must make their score prior to their freshman year starting. Once they start classes the out-of-state tuition rule becomes null and void.

[lawgal]

I think that it is great that they get such versatility but I am baffled as to the rationale. I always thought that the reason in state students got a tuition break was because their family's tax dollars supported the institution already.