Alabama Recruitment Prediction (Fall 2008) - Page 6

breathesgelatin · #1 08-12-2008, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by uamomma

ok, thanks! I was just wondering how that part worked. Back in the day, we didn't have specific numbers given to us. It almost doesn't seem fair to the girls or the sororities.....but I feel like panhellenic is doing their best for all involved to have good experiences. Does anyone know what the numbers are based on?

It's too complicated to explain here (at least for me), and I don't know if anyone will attempt to, but basically it's based upon return rates in the past.

Say XYZ usually has nearly 100% of women accept invitations to their second round party, over the course of the past five years.

Say ABC usually has around 50% of women regret invitations to their second round party, over the course of the past five years.

So XYZ is going to have to release a lot more women than ABC between the first and second round of parties. There is an "ideal" number that each chapter will have returning to its second round parties in order that its parties are neither too full or too empty.

That's a very rough explanation. The campus Panhellenic uses a computer formula to determine the exact numbers.

LOL: 3 of us posted explanations at the same time.

What they said, too.

Zillini · #2 08-12-2008, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by breathesgelatin

It's too complicated to explain here ...

And if you really want to mess with someone's mind, try explaining Flex Lists. My Hubby, a mechanical engineer, just said "Huh?"

uamomma · #3 08-12-2008, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Zillini

And if you really want to mess with someone's mind, try explaining Flex Lists. My Hubby, a mechanical engineer, just said "Huh?"

I know it's late...but what are "flex lists"?

Zillini · #4 08-12-2008, 12:03 AM

I'm not an expert on the math. The number of invitations a chapter can extend to the next round is determined by a calculation of the total number of women participating in Recruitment and a chapter's expected return rate (accepted invitations) based on their past history of return rates.

uamomma · #5 08-12-2008, 12:20 AM

Thanks! That helps me to understand a little better. I'll just pray she stays close to the top of the list in each of the houses she really likes. Which were several btw...I don't know how she'll narow it down.

Zillini · #6 08-12-2008, 12:41 AM

I knew that was coming.

In a nutshell, Flex Lists are a pre-approved portion of an invitation list. If a chapter ends up having a spectacular Recruitment and their Return Rates far exceed their expected past history averages, this list gives Panhellenic permission to not extend as many invitations as originally planned. If on the other hand a chapter has significantly lower than expected Return Rates, this is a list of PNMs that Panhellenic will go ahead and extend invitations to (more than the originally given number).

uamomma · #7 08-12-2008, 12:55 AM

Hmmm...Sounds crazy! With RFM and flex lists, one might think it's bad to have a good rush???

FSUZeta · #8 08-12-2008, 07:19 AM

it does seem that way, but in actuality, on campuses where RFM has been used for a while, the chapters with the highest return rates are still pledging quota(or quota plus) and the chapters who rarely made quota are making quota or are coming nearer to the magic number. it is strengthening panhellenic as a whole and allowing more girls the opportunity to receive a bid.

33girl · #9 08-12-2008, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by FSUZeta

it is strengthening panhellenic as a whole and allowing more girls the opportunity to receive a bid.

Like I said in another thread - it gets the girls' minds off of chapters where they might not have had a very good chance of receiving a bid and they can concentrate on groups where they DO have a chance.

I know that it's disappointing for some women to find out that the most popular group didn't want them, but better to find out the first day of rush than the day before pref.

KSUViolet06 · #10 08-12-2008, 11:11 AM

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Like I said in another thread - it gets the girls' minds off of chapters where they might not have had a very good chance of receiving a bid and they can concentrate on groups where they DO have a chance.

I know that it's disappointing for some women to find out that the most popular group didn't want them, but better to find out the first day of rush than the day before pref.

This is how release figures were explained to me when my school first used the system in 2006. Sure there were some girls who were shocked and upset to be cut from the groups with the highest return rates on the first day of cuts, but in the end it was better for them and the system as a whole.

We had fewer girls dropping out that year than we did when the heaviest cuts were right before prefs (which stings alot more than being cut immediately does in my opinion).

Tex-A-Bama · #11 08-12-2008, 11:53 AM

I am a ZTA mom and an Alpha Phi Alumnae. My daughter was raised in an A-phi lodge because I was chapter advisor for a couple of years. She LOVES ZETA but because of my affiliation wishes for them to be successful at the U of A. She has asked me to do a rec for a sophomore who is not doing formal rush and is just learning of the colonizing. The house is on sorority row. It is on the corner accross from Tutwiler and the stadium. I was there a couple of weeks ago and they were doing repairs and painting. here is a link should you know of a good canidate.
www.Alphaphialabama.com

Bamamom13 · #12 08-12-2008, 05:14 PM

Zillini,
Does Alabama have the guaranteed bid if you maximize your options this year? I had heard that they were ranking this year at the end of each day instead of going on the computers in the morning.

Bamamom13 · #13 08-12-2008, 05:30 PM

*That is if you complete the process. I had heard that they were doing things differently this year than they had in the past few years.

Lamplighter · #14 08-12-2008, 05:49 PM

BamaMom,

I'd like to know the same thing. In the past, the first cuts have been deep, but my niece said they are doing something different this year. She is supposed to call me after 2nd round of teas today...before voting. I hope all my special hometown girls do ok, although I have a feeling there might be some broken hearts.

Tex-A-Bama · #15 08-12-2008, 05:55 PM

I heard 500 cuts tonight.

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Originally Posted by Lamplighter

BamaMom,

I'd like to know the same thing. In the past, the first cuts have been deep, but my niece said they are doing something different this year. She is supposed to call me after 2nd round of teas today...before voting. I hope all my special hometown girls do ok, although I have a feeling there might be some broken hearts.