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Old 06-26-2008, 07:58 PM
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a) Someone needs to find my post on some random thread that had about 10 or so things that determine your "excellence" as a chapter.

b) Also, I need to know these lofty standards you are using and who the “peers” are for Ole Miss Sigma Nu. As far as “good” chapters, I’d like to know what SEC chapters of yours that are THAT much better then:

* South Carolina.
* University of Alabama.
* Auburn University.
* P.S. We get do-overs on campuses we were strong on then got booted off of: (expl: Florida, Georgia, Vandy, LSU)

Sidenote: Arkansas you say is not bottom tier, so I'd assume they aren't horrible. Well, they have only been back on campus for like 2 years maybe? So they weren't horrible for 5 to 10 years.
Sigma Nu at Ole Miss was the only one that came to mind.

I'm pretty sure Sigma Nu's not Old Row at Bama, though. Could be wrong, but thought Old Row was DKE, Phi Gam, KA, and SAE.

They've been on campus for longer than 2 years. I'd like to say it's been about 5 years or so now. They just got their house last year. In the beginning, they were highly questionable and weren't very selective. Especially when I first came on campus. Wooh boy. They've turned it around alot though.
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Old 06-26-2008, 10:57 PM
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I'm pretty sure Sigma Nu's not Old Row at Bama, though. Could be wrong, but thought Old Row was DKE, Phi Gam, KA, and SAE.
FYI, you're wrong. Old Row at Bama: KA, SAE, DKE, Sigma Nu, Phi Gam, and I think Phi Delt (could be wrong on Phi Delt).

Not giving you the tiers, just the Old Row fraternities.
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Old 06-25-2008, 03:52 PM
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This is one of the most foolish posts ever...

Entreprenureal men seek fresh opportunities. Therefore, Sigma Nu will pull some dynamic leaders right out of the gate. Sigma Nu dominated at Kansas for decades as one of the top fraternities. They have a huge pipeline of legacies that will want to join. They have a great chapter house. They have unlimited alumni resources. Sigma Nu is one of the strongest and most highly regarded national organizations. Sigma Nu has a four-year ethical leadership development program (LEAD) which will be very attractive to mature, ambitious men.

Suggesting "they are going to suck for 5-10 years" is foolishness. I can cite plenty of examples where that thinking is just plain wrong. Check our www.fsupikes.com, for example...

just bc you have a huge house full of 200+ brothers who dont know each other that doesnt mean that you're top tier
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Old 06-25-2008, 03:57 PM
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just bc you have a huge house full of 200+ brothers who dont know each other that doesnt mean that you're top tier
Easy fella. He's not an FSU Pike.
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Old 06-25-2008, 04:21 PM
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This is one of the most foolish posts ever...

Entreprenureal men seek fresh opportunities. Therefore, Sigma Nu will pull some dynamic leaders right out of the gate. Sigma Nu dominated at Kansas for decades as one of the top fraternities. They have a huge pipeline of legacies that will want to join. They have a great chapter house. They have unlimited alumni resources. Sigma Nu is one of the strongest and most highly regarded national organizations. Sigma Nu has a four-year ethical leadership development program (LEAD) which will be very attractive to mature, ambitious men.

Suggesting "they are going to suck for 5-10 years" is foolishness. I can cite plenty of examples where that thinking is just plain wrong. Check our www.fsupikes.com, for example...
FSU Pike was underground as the "firemen" for the entire length of their suspension, that is why they are the exception. Has your chapter at Kansas been underground? I doubt that your nationals would tolerate it... from what I've heard they are some of the most controlling out of all of the IFC fraternities.
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Old 07-12-2008, 12:03 AM
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This is one of the most foolish posts ever...

Entreprenureal men seek fresh opportunities. Therefore, Sigma Nu will pull some dynamic leaders right out of the gate. Sigma Nu dominated at Kansas for decades as one of the top fraternities. They have a huge pipeline of legacies that will want to join. They have a great chapter house. They have unlimited alumni resources. Sigma Nu is one of the strongest and most highly regarded national organizations. Sigma Nu has a four-year ethical leadership development program (LEAD) which will be very attractive to mature, ambitious men.

Suggesting "they are going to suck for 5-10 years" is foolishness. I can cite plenty of examples where that thinking is just plain wrong. Check our www.fsupikes.com, for example...
I was browsing their site and I'm surprised that their President and Rush Chairman are Hispanic... since usually "Top Tier" fraternities at competitive schools don't bid many minorities, according to most posters on greekchat.
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Old 07-12-2008, 12:10 AM
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I was browsing their site and I'm surprised that their President and Rush Chairman are Hispanic... since usually "Top Tier" fraternities at competitive schools don't bid many minorities, according to most posters on frattinghard/old row.
Fixed your post, even though its true.
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Old 07-12-2008, 12:14 AM
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I was browsing their site and I'm surprised that their President and Rush Chairman are Hispanic... since usually "Top Tier" fraternities at competitive schools don't bid many minorities, according to most posters on greekchat.
Well than you might go ahead and venture a guess as to what I'm about to tell you.

FSU Pike isn't a top-tier house. They are good at intramurals and have a decent social calendar, but aren't what you would think of as a top-tier house. (That's my understanding at least, I don't go to FSU but I'm positive that Pike isn't usually thought of as one of their top-tier houses.)

And what ElephantWalk said is true.
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Old 07-12-2008, 12:18 AM
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That's my understanding at least, I don't go to FSU but I'm positive that Pike isn't usually thought of as one of their top-tier houses.
Well I don't attend FSU either, but the way that post was written made it seem like it was a top chapter up there.

Maybe an FSU guy (PhiGam? if he goes to FSU) can clear it up.
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Old 07-12-2008, 12:20 AM
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Well I don't attend FSU either, but the way that post was written made it seem like it was a top chapter up there.

Maybe an FSU guy (PhiGam? if he goes to FSU) can clear it up.
I have a lot of good friends at FSU (including one in Pike). They aren't top-tier, no matter how clearly a 33 year old from Illinois with no experience with their chapter tried to insist that they were.
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Old 07-12-2008, 12:23 AM
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I have a lot of good friends at FSU (including one in Pike). They aren't top-tier,
Then who is?
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Old 07-12-2008, 12:36 AM
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Then who is?
I don't know their exact tiers, but from my limited experience KA, Sigma Chi, Lambda Chi and Fiji all seem better than Pike. What Pike has going for them is that they do well in intramurals and have ungodly huge numbers (to the point that brothers don't know who other brothers are), not top-tier in the traditional sense.
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