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06-18-2008, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ree-Xi
You know, I just don't buy that this is THAT much more than just basketball. Sure, it's a great sound bite. Yes, Obama is (how do I say this) part black. But does that make this all about race?
At least half the guys I know, white/black/whatever, teenager or father of four, suburb or city dwellers - they are playing basketball in their driveways, in pickup games on the school courts, or even in evening basketball leagues. Three out of my five nieces and nephews (ages 8, 9, 13) play basketball, with two older ones on two teams each.
I stand by my statement that the game is an equalizer. You can play with minimal skill (and lose, but still play), with two people or ten, as long as you have something round to throw the ball into. I think that this should be taken just as it is - some guy saying that it would be cool to have a bball court at "home".
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uhhhhh......
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06-18-2008, 05:21 PM
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uhhhhh......
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Yes, there are women and men of various cultures and races who play basketball at home, work, organized leagues, etc. Hell, the NBA used to be "white man city" so of course blacks aren't the only ones who play basketball. 
But people know what images "streetball" conjures up in many minds and they also know the images that conjured up when the NBA stopped being "white man city." Basketball has always been listed as one of the sports where one doesn't need money or influence to play (perhaps what ree means by the "great equalizer") and class and race are very linked in this society.
Let's not act brand new up in here. Or were the racial comments in the original link a figment of everyone's imagination? 
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06-18-2008, 05:36 PM
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Yes, there are women and men of various cultures and races who play basketball at home, work, organized leagues, etc. Hell, the NBA used to be "white man city" so of course blacks aren't the only ones who play basketball.
But people know what images "streetball" conjures up in many minds and they also know the images that conjured up when the NBA stopped being "white man city." Basketball has always been listed as one of the sports where one doesn't need money or influence to play (perhaps what ree means by the "great equalizer") and class and race are very linked in this society.
Let's not act brand new up in here. Or were the racial comments in the original link a figment of everyone's imagination? |
minorities are just a bunch of crazy, wily, people.
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06-18-2008, 05:15 PM
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Yes, Obama is black.
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Fixed that for you.
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06-18-2008, 05:16 PM
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Fixed that for you.
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he's not white?
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06-18-2008, 05:23 PM
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he's not white?
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hehe...I can think of tons of nonbiracial blacks whose "race" is more ambiguous than Obama's.
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06-17-2008, 02:08 PM
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Also, I am one of many who were annoyed when Obama was celebrated as some well-speaking orator as if people expected him to be saying "heebajeeba...Ibeeyoubeee."
Celebrate his accomplishments if you must but don't celebrate him for essentially speaking well and having a charisma that wouldn't be so celebrated if he was the (typical) white male candidate.
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06-17-2008, 04:26 PM
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All the bullisht aside, this has gotten the reacton that it's gotten (not by people in this thread) because:
BASKETBALL = BLACK
BASKETBALL = STREET
BASKETBALL = NONELITE
BASKETBALL = LOWER CLASS
blahzey blah
The Repubs and nonRepubs who have made this into a silly "issue" are using these images because of the threat of a black man, who is a Democrat, possibly becoming POTUS. Politics is never just about politics.
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EXACTLY. It's also the same thing with Fox News referrring to Michelle Obama as a "baby mama." It's not enough that both Obamas are double-Ivy graduates who have worked at one of the nation's top law firms, or that they're overachievers by anyone's standard. For all that, the media wants to knock them down to look ghetto. I experience it in my daily life, and I'm sick and tired of it.
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I guess you haven't seen the doll, which look more like my five year old cousin in the sun than Obama.
Black Voices story (which includes the doll): http://www.blackvoices.com/blogs/200...y-sock-monkey/
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06-17-2008, 06:09 PM
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I saw the doll which is why i stated as much and yes, I think it is offensive.
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06-17-2008, 02:32 PM
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i'm voting mccain.
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06-17-2008, 03:00 PM
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i'm voting mccain.
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that's nice.....let me know how that works out for you
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06-17-2008, 03:05 PM
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that's nice.....let me know how that works out for you
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it should work out pretty well. next trip i'm going to the white house and checking out the presidential wheel chair
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06-17-2008, 03:11 PM
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it should work out pretty well. next trip i'm going to the white house and checking out the presidential wheel chair
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can you check on the stasis unit also while you are there?
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06-17-2008, 06:00 PM
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Dubya and Bill Clinton are products of their country arse environments. Being wealthy and elite doesn't preclude enjoying many things that others from their areas enjoy. It doesn't mean they are faking it or trying to be something they're not.
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I agree, but still...
read this onion article
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/42590
"Long-Awaited Beer With Bush Really Awkward, Voter Reports"
Pretty funny.
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06-17-2008, 06:14 PM
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Minute detail. Bring it back to the main point.
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