California's top court overturns gay marriage ban

[nate2512]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

Ah! As much as some people on here rub me the wrong way, I've never put anyone on 'ignore'. It does interrupt the flow of the thread.

Yeah, she said she had me on ignore since I joined, no I'm not always nice to people, I don't always agree, but I thought I've always been fair enough to not have anyone ignore. Especially when I first joined and people weren't familiar with my style.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by sigmadiva

I already know - she and I have a loooooooooonnnnggggg history here on GC. VERY LONG.

I'll have to take your word on that. I beeez forge'in' 'n stuh.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by nate2512

don't try that with dstchaos, she doesn't like that too much

Yeah...why overstate the obvious? I'd rather someone say "this bores me, move on" if they want to be dismissive and have the power to begin and end discussions.

[nate2512]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Yeah...why overstate the obvious? I'd rather someone say "this bores me, move on" if they want to be dismissive and have the power to begin and end discussions.

Duly noted. I'll remember that.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by kstar

So you don't eat shrimp, or wear polyester blends, or bathe on your period? Because all of that is an abomination too. You can't pick and choose if you're going to use one. And if you say the reasons for the rest are outdated, then that one is outdated too.

I've never heard anyone, except some Reform Jews, make a claim that any of the laws are "outdated." For 2000 years though, plenty of people have claimed that the ritual or purity laws -- dietary laws, clothing laws, laws regarding menstruation, and others that applied only to Jews and that separated Jew from Gentile -- are not binding on Christians. The beginnings of the discussion are actually documented in the Bible, you know -- Acts, chapters 10 and 15.

As for the ethical or moral laws -- such as laws prohibiting murder or stealing or regulating sexual beavior -- they have always been deemed to be universally binding, not just binding on Jews.

What you seem to be forgetting is that the Bible was written by man, not G*d, and personal beliefs and prejudices were added.

And what you seem to be forgetting is that a large chunk of the Jewish and Christian communities, if not the majority of them, would not agree with your statement. While they would agree that men wrote the Scriptures, they would claim that those men were divinely inspired and did not insert personal prejudices.

Originally Posted by kstar

Actually no, it grants freedom OF AND FROM religion. You can practice any religion you want and you cannot have religion forced upon you.

Again, you ignore the parts of history that disagree with your worldview. The First Amendment only kept the federal government from making laws establishing a national religion. It was almost 100 years before the states were similarly prohibited by the Constitution. So whatever the First Amendment was intended to accomplish, it simply cannot be argued with any credibility at all that it was intended to protect people from religion. That's a late 20th Century spin on it.

[sigmadiva]

Originally Posted by kstar

So you don't eat shrimp, or wear polyester blends, or bathe on your period? Because all of that is an abomination too. You can't pick and choose if you're going to use one. And if you say the reasons for the rest are outdated, then that one is outdated too.

If the topic of this thread was about what you listed above, then my answer would be relevant. But since the topic of this thread is not about those items you listed, then I have no reason to answer them.

The only one who seems to be picking and choosing random biblical topics at will is doogur.

But, since you asked, yes I do eat shrimp, I do my absolute best to avoid all things polyester and I do bathe on my period.

As stated in an earlier post in this thread, I consider myself to be a New Testament Christian. I guess that offends you.

What you seem to be forgetting is that the Bible was written by man, not G*d, and personal beliefs and prejudices were added.

Not exactly. The Bible was written by man as God directed.