Why do LGLO/MCGLOs follow NPHC practices?

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

There go those African traditions!

Cleland???

[AKA_Monet]

Sneaking into the Movies... Pre bootleg...

I'm working on getting the Hoe Cakes!!!

[CULater]

can we ask why NPC/IFC or Asian-Interest orgs are starting to "adopt" some of the NPHC traditions (specifically stepping). Sometimes, I run across them on youtube, and it was painful to watch.

[PANTHERTEKE]

Originally Posted by CULater

can we ask why NPC/IFC or Asian-Interest orgs are starting to "adopt" some of the NPHC traditions (specifically stepping). Sometimes, I run across them on youtube, and it was painful to watch.

Same reason a lot of latin/multicultural orgs do it- because they think it's cool.

But unlike LGLOs and MCGLOs, IF and when an IFC/NPC group does it, they usually just do it for a show or something and they don't try to take it and pass it off as their own.

Not that I condone either case. I think stepping should stay in the NPHC.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by CULater

can we ask why NPC/IFC or Asian-Interest orgs are starting to "adopt" some of the NPHC traditions (specifically stepping). Sometimes, I run across them on youtube, and it was painful to watch.

when you say "we", do you mean "we", as "hispanic organizations who adopt NPHC traditions?"

[TotallyWicked]

To answer the question at hand....I read an article about Latinos immigrants acclimation to 'Black' culture as opposed to the mainstream 'White' culture. The article, which I will ask my brother to send to me again...explained that Latinos (unless they are of dominantly European descent), are knowledgeable that they will not fit in with the dominant culture so they blend in with the 'other'. I say 'other' because ultimately we are still in a Black-White dichotomy in the U.S.

Being that Latinos, can fall under any racial category in the U.S., I think it'd be interesting to see which LGLO's engage in NPHC-esque practices and which do so in IFC/NPC-esque practices. I am not surprised to see many LGLO's founded on the East Coast sharing vast similarities to NPHC orgs, alot has to do with the culture amalgamations between Blacks and Latinos.

I have met members of LGLO's from the West Coast who partake in IFC/NPC practices, I think alot has to do with the long presence of Latinos in the west coast, some who have been able to fully assimilate and find more similarity with the mainstream culture as opposed to the 'other'.

There is a refutation to this argument especially if we look at Texas, and at orgs like Omega Delta Phi and Kappa Delta Chi...knight_shadow you can explain this better than I can...so shoot LOL, but these orgs follow more NPHC practices as opposed to IFC/NPC despite Latinos being present longer in that state than Blacks; I think alot has to do with the second class citizenship Latinos held (and continue to do so) with regards to the history of Texas despite having a long presence and the similarity they hold with that to Blacks, African Americans especially.

That is not to say Cali Latinos did not share the same second class citizenship but the fact that TX ultimately fought to become its own country after removing itself from Mexico then becoming an American state could answer that question.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by TotallyWicked

There is a refutation to this argument especially if we look at Texas, and at orgs like Omega Delta Phi and Kappa Delta Chi...knight_shadow you can explain this better than I can...so shoot LOL, but these orgs follow more NPHC practices as opposed to IFC/NPC despite Latinos being present longer in that state than Blacks; I think alot has to do with the second class citizenship Latinos held (and continue to do so) with regards to the history of Texas despite having a long presence and the similarity they hold with that to Blacks, African Americans especially.

That is not to say Cali Latinos did not share the same second class citizenship but the fact that TX ultimately fought to become its own country after removing itself from Mexico then becoming an American state could answer that question.

As far as why ODPhi and KDChi seem to follow NPHC practices: Both organizations were founded at Texas Tech, which has a pretty solid Greek system (For example, one of my friends initiated into an NPC sorority with 142 other girls - and from what I understand, this is a normal-sized class). For a new organization being formed, getting numbers like that is going to be impossible, so emulating the recruitment styles would not be effective. The NPHC organizations accomplished a great deal of work with far less numbers, and this was more in line with our organizations. As far as why line jackets/strolling/stepping, etc is used -- I'm not too sure about that. Several of the old heads that I've spoken to have stated that there was a lot of support from the Alphas, so it may have been seen as OK to partake in those practices.

Also, one of ODPhi's founders is black, so it's possible that he grew up around members of the NPHC and saw their styles as "normal Greek life," regardless of the letters.

Being that Latinos, can fall under any racial category in the U.S., I think it'd be interesting to see which LGLO's engage in NPHC-esque practices and which do so in IFC/NPC-esque practices. I am not surprised to see many LGLO's founded on the East Coast sharing vast similarities to NPHC orgs, alot has to do with the culture amalgamations between Blacks and Latinos.

I have met members of LGLO's from the West Coast who partake in IFC/NPC practices, I think alot has to do with the long presence of Latinos in the west coast, some who have been able to fully assimilate and find more similarity with the mainstream culture as opposed to the 'other'.

I'm not familiar with any NALFO organizations using an NIC/NPC-style recruitment, so I'm also interested in seeing who does what.

[TotallyWicked]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

As far as why ODPhi and KDChi seem to follow NPHC practices: Both organizations were founded at Texas Tech, which has a pretty solid Greek system (For example, one of my friends initiated into an NPC sorority with 142 other girls - and from what I understand, this is a normal-sized class). For a new organization being formed, getting numbers like that is going to be impossible, so emulating the recruitment styles would not be effective. The NPHC organizations accomplished a great deal of work with far less numbers, and this was more in line with our organizations. As far as why line jackets/strolling/stepping, etc is used -- I'm not too sure about that. Several of the old heads that I've spoken to have stated that there was a lot of support from the Alphas, so it may have been seen as OK to partake in those practices.

Also, one of ODPhi's founders is black, so it's possible that he grew up around members of the NPHC and saw their styles as "normal Greek life," regardless of the letters.



I'm not familiar with any NALFO organizations using an NIC/NPC-style recruitment, so I'm also interested in seeing who does what.

oh they weren't NALFO orgs

[1908Revelations]

Ahhhhh another compairson thread.

[Senusret I]

Thank you.

[CULater]

really, I can't say anything about Alphas? Okay..I took it out.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by CULater

really, I can't say anything about Alphas? Okay..I took it out.

The topic you were speaking on was inappropriate for public discussion. Nevertheless, thank you for editing it out.

[DSTCHAOS]

Very informative turn of events.

That is all.

[Senusret I]

There is absolutely no reason for that, you know what the heck she meant.

[rhoyaltempest]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

There is absolutely no reason for that, you know what the heck she meant.

You'd be amazed at how many greeks really think this and it's obvious that she meant exactly what she said. We have enough people running around spreading falshehoods about greeks, we don't need greeks doing it also.